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SooCatt
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I am so excited to have finally found someone else who is researching the same family as me. 
Anyway I was wondering if someone out there could tell me just what our relationship is when our Gt Gt Grandfathers were brothers (obviously that means we have a common Gt Gt Gt Grandfather).
Susan
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Crampton, Cook, Bell, Pinkney, Curry, Duffey, Marshall, Smurthwaite, Urwin - Durham/North Yorks Harrison - Northumberland Rowland, Nicholson, Sneaton - Whitby Athey, Ball, Lamb, Handley, Rymer, Duffey, Pool, Stringer, Wilkinson, Varley - West Yorks Fisher - Essex Cencus information is Crown Copyright, from " http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk" |
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trish251
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I find it easiest to write out the descendants
GG Grandfathers brothers
G Grandfathers 1st cousins
Grandfathers 2nd cousins
Fathers 3rd cousins
He/She and I 4th cousins
I get the same answer old rowley
Trish
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SooCatt
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Thanks for that Old Rowley and Trish
I always get really confused about this relationship thing. 
Is there a difference then between being 4th cousins and being cousins four times removed? Or is it the same thing?
Susan
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Crampton, Cook, Bell, Pinkney, Curry, Duffey, Marshall, Smurthwaite, Urwin - Durham/North Yorks Harrison - Northumberland Rowland, Nicholson, Sneaton - Whitby Athey, Ball, Lamb, Handley, Rymer, Duffey, Pool, Stringer, Wilkinson, Varley - West Yorks Fisher - Essex Cencus information is Crown Copyright, from " http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk" |
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scotmum
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I keep a chart similar to this this one here at the front of my folder - hope it helps someone and yes, it agrees, 4th cousin.
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STEWART, Lanarkshire, Scotland and Fermanagh/Monaghan border areas, Ireland
LILLEY, County Antrim, Ireland (now NI).
HENDERSON,Lanarkshire,Scotland and probably County Londonderry, Ireland (now NI).
CAPE Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
SCOTT Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
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trish251
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It's quite different Susan. The removed defines your relationship to cousins of your parents/grandparents etc.
In the previous example - If your new relative was the 4th cousin of your mother/father, you would be the 4th cousin once removed.
I know quite a number of my mother's 1st cousins. I am the 2nd cousin to their children, but the 1st cousin once removed to them.
My daughter is the 1st cousin twice removed to my mother's cousins (her grandmother's cousins) and the 2nd cousin once removed to their children (her mother's 2nd cousins).
Trish
I should add, given that our extended family is quite large - we just call everybody cousin
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SooCatt
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Thanks again Trish
It's actually quite simple. I just don't think any one has ever explained it to me before
Susan
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SooCatt
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Hi Scotmum
Somehow missed your reply initially, sorry.
That chart is fantastic! I have printed it off and its now in the front of my file too.
Ta muchly
Susan
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Crampton, Cook, Bell, Pinkney, Curry, Duffey, Marshall, Smurthwaite, Urwin - Durham/North Yorks Harrison - Northumberland Rowland, Nicholson, Sneaton - Whitby Athey, Ball, Lamb, Handley, Rymer, Duffey, Pool, Stringer, Wilkinson, Varley - West Yorks Fisher - Essex Cencus information is Crown Copyright, from " http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk" |
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trish251
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Hi Scotmum
I missed the tiny link as well - loved the chart, but hated the music
I do find it easiest to write down the families on both sides and then they link very easily.
Trish
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SooCatt
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Mmm have to agree with Trish about the music 
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Crampton, Cook, Bell, Pinkney, Curry, Duffey, Marshall, Smurthwaite, Urwin - Durham/North Yorks Harrison - Northumberland Rowland, Nicholson, Sneaton - Whitby Athey, Ball, Lamb, Handley, Rymer, Duffey, Pool, Stringer, Wilkinson, Varley - West Yorks Fisher - Essex Cencus information is Crown Copyright, from " http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk" |
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scotmum
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 ....music, wait a mo.....yikes, just turned up the volume on my speakers.... ...now I hear it...mmm, yes, well, it is...catchy  .
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STEWART, Lanarkshire, Scotland and Fermanagh/Monaghan border areas, Ireland
LILLEY, County Antrim, Ireland (now NI).
HENDERSON,Lanarkshire,Scotland and probably County Londonderry, Ireland (now NI).
CAPE Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
SCOTT Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
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