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What relation does this make us?
« on: Monday 13 February 06 11:44 GMT (UK) »

I am so excited to have finally found someone else who is researching the same family as me.  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

Grin  Grin 

Anyway I was wondering if someone out there could tell me just what our relationship is when our Gt Gt Grandfathers were brothers (obviously that means we have a common Gt Gt Gt Grandfather).

Smiley   Smiley

Susan
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Re: What relation does this make us?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 February 06 12:38 GMT (UK) »

Hi Susan, if I have got it right you would be 4th cousins. Perhaps someone else can check it out as well just to make sure.

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Re: What relation does this make us?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 11:22 GMT (UK) »

I find it easiest to write out the descendants
GG Grandfathers  brothers
G Grandfathers  1st cousins
Grandfathers    2nd cousins
Fathers             3rd cousins
He/She and I            4th cousins

I get the same answer old rowley

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Re: What relation does this make us?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 11:36 GMT (UK) »

thanks for confirming my answer Trish after x amount of paper and hair tugging I didn't know if I had it right.

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Re: What relation does this make us?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 11:39 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for that Old Rowley and Trish

I always get really confused about this relationship thing.  Roll Eyes

Is there a difference then between being 4th cousins and being cousins four times removed?  Or is it the same thing?

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Harrison - Northumberland
Rowland, Nicholson, Sneaton - Whitby
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Fisher - Essex

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Re: What relation does this make us?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 11:44 GMT (UK) »

I keep a chart similar to this this one here at the front of my folder - hope it helps someone and yes, it agrees, 4th cousin.
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Re: What relation does this make us?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 11:44 GMT (UK) »

It's quite different Susan. The removed defines your relationship to cousins of your parents/grandparents etc.

In the previous example - If your new relative was the 4th cousin of your mother/father, you would be the 4th cousin once removed.

I know quite a number of my mother's 1st cousins. I am the 2nd cousin to their children, but the 1st cousin once removed to them.

My daughter is the 1st cousin twice removed to my mother's cousins (her grandmother's cousins) and the 2nd cousin once removed to their children (her mother's 2nd cousins).

Trish

I should add, given that our extended family is quite large - we just call everybody cousin   Grin   Grin   Grin
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Re: What relation does this make us?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 12:09 GMT (UK) »

Thanks again Trish

It's actually quite simple.  I just don't think any one has ever explained it to me before

Smiley

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Harrison - Northumberland
Rowland, Nicholson, Sneaton - Whitby
Athey, Ball, Lamb, Handley, Rymer, Duffey, Pool, Stringer, Wilkinson, Varley - West Yorks
Fisher - Essex

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Re: What relation does this make us?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 12:13 GMT (UK) »

Hi Scotmum

Somehow missed your reply initially, sorry.

That chart is fantastic!  I have printed it off and its now in the front of my file too.

Ta muchly

Susan
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Harrison - Northumberland
Rowland, Nicholson, Sneaton - Whitby
Athey, Ball, Lamb, Handley, Rymer, Duffey, Pool, Stringer, Wilkinson, Varley - West Yorks
Fisher - Essex

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Re: What relation does this make us?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 12:15 GMT (UK) »

Hi Scotmum

I missed the tiny link as well - loved the chart, but hated the music  Grin

I do find it easiest to write down the families on both sides and then they link very easily.

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Re: What relation does this make us?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 12:16 GMT (UK) »

Mmm have to agree with Trish about the music  Undecided
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Harrison - Northumberland
Rowland, Nicholson, Sneaton - Whitby
Athey, Ball, Lamb, Handley, Rymer, Duffey, Pool, Stringer, Wilkinson, Varley - West Yorks
Fisher - Essex

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Re: What relation does this make us?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 14 February 06 12:22 GMT (UK) »

  Shocked....music, wait a mo.....yikes, just turned up the volume on my speakers.... Undecided...now I hear it...mmm, yes, well, it is...catchy  Tongue.
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LILLEY, County Antrim, Ireland (now NI).
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Re: What relation does this make us?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 18 February 06 17:18 GMT (UK) »

I have printed it out too - how handy to have

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