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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 19 February 06 14:05 GMT (UK) »

Emma & Nell,
Thanks again for your searching on my behalf - it's cracking stuff! I take Nell's advice on board about the verification, but half the fun of this is the invention of the skeletons. We've debunked several family illusions already, but made sure we've replaced them with other mini-scandals!!

I'm liking the look of Elizabeth's 1874 marriage to William Thomas, but it would be nice to know where she was in 1881. No death to report?

Given that the recorded deaths of the two Charlottes in 1851 (baby) and 1865 (mother) are indeed our people, then I'm not sure where Nell's still coming from with her idea that Charlotte Snr was the mother of the third Charlotte (b.1870). Am I missing something?

Emma's tale of Louis and Charlotte in Widnes is fascinating, however difficult it is to authenticate. Charlotte Thomas (nee Snook) ties in neatly with the third Charlotte in the Bath Rd household, but was she really marrying a Thomas in Llanelli (albeit Louis was born in France), when she used to live in Lymington with a William Thomas (born in Pembury, Llanelli)? If she was indeed William & Elizabeth Thomas' daughter, did she end up marrying her half-brother or uncle or cousin? The woman who died in South Stoneham in 1902 may, I guess, have reverted to her maiden name after hubby's death/divorce/disappearance, but you're right: there were a dickens of a lot of Snooks around in those days!

Any clues to Henry Snook's parentage from the 1841 census?
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Brian
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 19 February 06 14:57 GMT (UK) »

Smiley Didn't we "do" this family in one of the monthly challenges.
    I've been searching for it on site   Huh perhaps not.  But the names are so familiar.
                                        Cheesy
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 19 February 06 15:04 GMT (UK) »

  Found it.  July one  with the BALCH family.   
        Snook family was elusive then, if I remember rightly.   Grin
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 19 February 06 15:10 GMT (UK) »

There seem to have been more Snooks in Lymington than there are currently Patels in the whole of India (and when they had their kids they were only ever given half-a-dozen names to choose from)!!

I'm now off to study the Balches.
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 19 February 06 15:19 GMT (UK) »

Doesn't look like the same bunch of Snooks to me. Thanks for the idea. My mother-in-law tells me that Snook (also Snooke and Snooks) is a derivative of "Sevenoaks", therefore they're probably scattered far and wide.

Anyone know if Bridge Street, Bath Road and Slabro(?) Street in Lymington still exist? Or where they once were?

(I'm in Basingstoke - too darn wet and far to hop in the car and find out for myself!)
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 19 February 06 21:24 GMT (UK) »

I was simply trying to say that until you verify the facts, you cannot be 100% certain of anything!  Yes Charlotte senior seems to have died in 1865, but what if Henry married again after that and second wife died too by 1871 - it could have happened!  Let the daughters be innocent until proven guilty!

Snooks - very common in Hampshire and Wiltshire.

Location of streets in Lymington - if you really don't want to move, try either
http://www.streetmap.co.uk

or

http://www.multimap.com

Otherwise, I'm sure Basingstoke Library will have a Hampshire A-Z atlas.

Nell

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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #21 on: Monday 20 February 06 12:25 GMT (UK) »

Nell,
OK, I'm duly exposed as a lazy old ***!! It's just difficult trying to do all this AND have a life (AND earn a living) at the same time...

I agree that all of us should be assumed innocent until proven guilty. Therefore, I'm happy to assume that Henry's second wife (also called Charlotte?) died in childbirth, but that Charlotte Jnr (Mark 2) survived. But, no, I don't have any evidence of the second marriage. And speculation about in-breeding and deflowering by the local squire is far more entertaining, don't you think? Wink

And I was hoping there might be some contributors from Lymington who might be able to shed more light than multimap on what these roads were like back in Victorian times.
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Brian
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #22 on: Monday 20 February 06 12:59 GMT (UK) »

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It's just difficult trying to do all this AND have a life (AND earn a living) at the same time...
  Roll Eyes spoken like a man......  Grin

You could also have a look at:

http://www.old-maps.co.uk

19th century OS maps.  The Lymington area is a little difficult to read in places but you will get the general idea.

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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #23 on: Monday 20 February 06 13:11 GMT (UK) »

Ow, that hurt!!

As it happens, I'm just about to deliver a lecture on multithreading (aka multitasking) to my class. I generally start with the (pathetic) joke that it's a topic the blokes aren't meant to be able to understand...
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 22 February 06 16:41 GMT (UK) »

I can find Bath Rd on the old map, but neither of the other two locations. Anybody know whether Bridge Rd was once called Bridge St? Or is it a census enumerator problem?
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 22 February 06 17:51 GMT (UK) »

  Have you looked at Snooks Lane and Snooks Farm?
       East of Lymington, near Walhampton.
   It's on old maps.   Wink
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 26 March 06 22:03 BST (UK) »

Emma (or anyone else interested)...

re Your earlier findings for me, we've now managed to get hold of the birth certificate of Walter Martell Snook. It seems to show that the address in the 1991 census wasn't Slabro Street, but Station Street.

Is it possible that Charlotte Snook's maiden name (m. Henry Snook 1848) was Martell rather than Martill? We're trying to work out where Walter Martell Snook got his middle name from.
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 26 March 06 22:10 BST (UK) »

Martell/Martill....same difference...!  Have to allow for mis-spellings, accents and the like when it comes to old records....

For example, my line are the Edgley line, but there is a branch with an extra 'e' in the middle - Edgeley - purely because it was recorded like this on a certificate or record entry somewhere along the line!

Regards, Emma Wink
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 26 March 06 22:13 BST (UK) »

hi i see your looking at lymington
i live here if i can be of any help
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Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 26 March 06 22:26 BST (UK) »

And Bridge Street, Station Road/Street and Bath Road are all still here

I do know a 'Snook' but i'm not sure if that can help

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