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Marriage in Lewes lookup please
« on: Tuesday 28 September 04 17:18 BST (UK) »

Could you see if you can find a marriage in Lewes between THOMAS PHILLIPS and SARAH (surname possibly SMITH) please? It took place c1817 but I don't know at which church. They had children baptised at St John sub Castro in 1820 and 1824 so that may be a clue.
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Re: Marriage in Lewes lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 September 04 17:31 BST (UK) »

Hi Ann,
This is the license application
Extract from the Sussex Marriage Index:
Place: Archdeaconry of Lewes Marriage Licence,  Date:  5 Feb 1817:
Subject: Thomas PHILLIPS, bach farmer Ashburnham 21+
Spouse: Sarah SMITH, Westham 21+

And this is the actual marriage the next day,

Extract from the Sussex Marriage Index:
Place: Westham, East Sussex,  Date:  6 Feb 1817:
Subject: Thomas PHILLIPPS, bach Ashburnham
Spouse: Sarah SMITH, sp otp (lic)

Loads of information there,
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Re: Marriage in Lewes lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 September 04 17:54 BST (UK) »

Hi Rains4

You say that Thomas & Sarah had children baptised in St John Sub Castro 1820 and 1824 - but I can only see 1 possible child in 1820 - also, Thomas is down on the marriage licence as Farmer, but, and if it is the same person, down in the Church records as Ostler.

These are the baptisms for Phillips / Philips for St John Sub Castro

1821 May   27   Philipps   Ann Maria   f      Philip   Every Ann   OTP   Bricklayer   
1773 Aug   8   Philips   Mary   f      John   Mary         
1813 Jan   10   Philips   Harriet   f      William   Jemima   Lewes   Labourer   
1843 Aug   6   Philips   Anne   f   d   Thomas   Anne Caroline   Fisher St   Coach Painter   
1797 Feb   28   Phillips   Mary   f      Henry   Mary          base born, father Henry Baker
1798 Oct   22   Phillips   William   m      Richard   Susannah      serj Monmouthshire militia   
1802 Oct   17   Phillips   Philadelphia   f      Thomas   Sarah         
1808 Dec   18   Phillips   Harriott   f      Thomas   Sarah         
1810 Sep   23   Phillips   Ann   f      Thomas   Sarah      
1812 Jul   12   Phillips   Heeny   m      Robert   Sarah      
1814 May   1   Phillips   Eliza   f      Thomas   Sarah   OTP   Ostler
1818 Jan   15   Phillips   Frances   f      Thomas   Sarah   OTP   Ostler
1818 Oct   18   Phillips   Henry   m         Sarah   OTP   Pauper
1820 Apr   9   Phillips   Thomas   m      Thomas   Sarah   OTP   Ostler
1821 Jan   28   Phillips   William   m      William   Jemima   OTP   Labourer
1822 Feb   17   Phillips   Ellen   f      Thomas   Sarah   OTP   Servant
1824 May   16   Phillips   Caroline   f      Phillip   Abi Anne   OTP   Bricklayer
1824 Dec   5   Phillips   Caroline   f      George   Mary Ann   OTP   Ostler
1826 Feb   26   Phillips   Phillip   m      Phillip   Ann   OTP   Bricklayer
1827 Mar   11   Phillips   George   m      Thomas   Sarah   OTP   Servant
1828 Feb   17   Phillips   Eliza   f      Phillip   Ann   OTP   Bricklayer
1831 Nov   20   Phillips   Eleanor   f   d   Philip   Ann   OTP   Brick Maker
1831 Oct   9   Phillips   James Field   m   s   James   Eliza   OTP   Brick Layer
1832 Nov   11   Phillips   Eliza   f   d   James   Eliza   OTP   Brick Layer
1832 Mch   25   Phillips   Richard   m   s   John   Phillis   OTP   Brick Layer   
1834 Jan   12   Phillips   Elizabeth   f   d   John   Philadelphia   OTP   Brick Layer   
1834 Apr   6   Phillips   Rhoda   f   d   Phillip   Ann   OTP   Brick Layer   
1836 Aug   28   Phillips   Eliza   f   d   John   Philadelphia   OTP   Brick Layer   
1837 May   28   Phillips   Harriet Eliza   f   d   Henry   Harriet   OTP   Black Smith   
1837 Mch   5   Phillips   Martha   f   d   Philip   Ann   OTP   Black Smith   
1839 Oct   13   Phillips   Eliza   f   d      Ellen   OTP   Servant   
1839 Apr   28   Phillips   Emily   f   d   James   Eliza   OTP   Builder   
1839 Apr   28   Phillips   Frances   f   d   Kames   Eliza   OTP   Builder   
1839 Apr   28   Phillips   Sarah Creser d   f   d   James   Eliza   OTp   Builder   
1841 Jul   25   Phillips   Clara   f   d   James   Elizabeth    Mt Pleasant   Brick Layer   
1842 Sep   18   Phillips   George   m   s   Philip   Anne   Priory St   Brick Layer   
 
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Re: Marriage in Lewes lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 September 04 14:47 BST (UK) »

Thanks Jane and Chris for your help.
It now looks as though I have the wrong couple for my 3x great grandparents. The FFHS online search tells me that Caroline Philips ( the name of my 2xgreat grandmother) was baptised 5.12.1824 and her parents were Thomas (an ostler) and Sarah. Chris's list of baptisms has this Caroline's parents as George and Mary Ann. However, analyzing the family of  the other Caroline Philips who was baptised in 1824, parents Philip and Ann, leads to me think that it is this one who is my ancestor. Three names which occur in later generations of my family appear here, including the fairly uncommon one of Rhoda. I also note that, at the time of the youngest child's baptism, they were living on Priory Street, Lewes. This is an address that occurs many times later on for my Lewes relations...my mother was born at a Priory Street address. So...thank you very much Rootschat for your help once again. You seem to have sorted things out for me! I'm so glad I found your site.
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Re: Marriage in Lewes lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 September 04 15:36 BST (UK) »

Hi Again

I think I have got my head around your last message Undecided

Here is the 1851 census details of Phillip & Ann

HO107/ 1643/ Folio 345/ Page 70 - Priory Street, Lewes.

PHILLIPS Phillip, Head, Marr, 50, Bricklayer JM, born Lewes, Sussex
               Ann, Wife, Marr, 52, born Lewes
               Maria, Dau, Unm, 31, Laundress, born Lewes
               George, Son, Unm, 12, Errand Boy, born Lewes
               

Rhoda is elswhere
PHILLIPS, Rhoda, Serv, Unm, 17, House Servant for Mr Verrall in the High Street, Lewes.

Will look on the 1841 for Lewes after dinner

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Re: Marriage in Lewes lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 September 04 15:56 BST (UK) »

Hi Rains4

Dinner wont be ready for about another 30 mins - so here goes

HO107/ 1120/ Schedule 29/ Page 17 - Priory Street, Lewes.

PHILLIPS, Phillip, 40, Bricklayer
                Ann, 40
                Maria, 20
                Philip, 15
                Naioma ?, 12
                Elenor, 10
                Roda, 8
                Martha, 4
                George, 2

All born in the county of Sussex.

Hope that helps you fit the family into your tree

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 September 04 17:30 BST (UK) »

Oh dear Chris, it is a bit complicated and I'm sure the way I wrote it didn't help! Sorry. However, the census info you have given me certainly does fit...and those names DO recur in later generations of the family, so it looks as though we've got 'em. Thanks ...yet again. I've lost count of the number of times you have helped me now. I'm very grateful. Ann
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