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Rake Lane Cemetery
« on: Wednesday 29 September 04 08:40 BST (UK) »

I believe my gggrandfather Thomas McNab(Mariner) is buried at Rake Lane Cemetery....he was said to have died at 94 years and was born in approx 1840 in Scotland. His last address in 1901 was Pulton cum Seacombe.. although I do not have any idea of the date of his death, I am looking at around the 1930's. I believe his children and wife were also buried in the same cemetery, Can anyone help please, as I have already checked Cheshire BDM and Lancashire BDM and IGI.
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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 October 04 23:16 BST (UK) »

Andrea This is amazing. I have been collecting on nice days from this very cemetery. Inscriptions of Merchant seamen & R.N.R .that i have just last week started a new topic with I also live in the area so i think i should be able to help you.I can look up Thomas McNabs birth place in scotland, i hope, i can also get the oridginal print-out for Poulton cum Seacome for 1901. Another thing i can do is find out when he was buried and the plot. If the grave stone is still standing and it should be. i will take a photo for you.  Both My Grandfather a Master Marina  and a marine engineer are buried in the same cemetery. It Might take a week or 2 to do all this. As I have to go to the main place to obtain the plot number + map and the burial date from the records. then  find the plot. So will start on Monday. I will send you the info when i have got it all in.

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 October 04 00:54 BST (UK) »

Hi Celia...I cant thank you enough...as I think most of the McNabs are buried there. Leonora Thomas's wife and possibly some of the children. I have a cousin living in New Brighton, but she doesnt have time to do anything as she teaches and has a family, and three boys. As the cemetary isnt online, I must say its great that you are doing that.
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 October 04 21:58 BST (UK) »

Hi Salopian I mentioned maybe you should try Liverpool and Leicester in your search. Well i just had a look on the 1881 census ( after checking the birth years of the children you sent me) on family search, it's quicker than searching my own. Your McNab family are on it and another two children that i mentioned you had room for. Living at 12 Barlow lane in Kirkdale. Course you may have this but maybe not. You should now be able to find the births of the children1875 1877 & 1883  in Liverpool. If you get the 1891 census that will tell you if they were still in liverpool or not.

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                                                                  P.S found the C of Isabel (age 26 on the 1901 census)Eliza McNab on 19th November 1874 at st Mary's in kirkdale. Parents Thomas & Leonora McNab
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« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 October 04 22:49 BST (UK) »

Hi Celia...yes I have the census for 1881 and also 1891 (they lived in Walton Liverpool)..then moved to the Wirral...the other three sons were in the Merchant Navy as well...my grandmother is Isabel...
I just wanted to find the cemetery records, as on the marriage certificate for Thomas and Leonora,(they were married in Liverpool) his parent is listed as Robert McNab gentleman, born Scotland, and no mother listed. The problem I have is finding out where in Scotland he was born...and thats proving to be difficult in getting the right one.
I thought maybe the death records would show where he was born etc.
Thank you again Celia...call me Andrea  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 October 04 23:21 BST (UK) »

No Andrea the death record wont show where he was born only where he died. Why when asked where they were born by the census taker did all the Scot's say Scotland. Grin Mine did found her eventualy.

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 October 04 09:14 BST (UK) »

Hi Celia...I wish I was over there..as its gets so frustrating trying to do searches this end..I found so many Thomas McNabs in Scotland..but maybe on his tombstone, if there is one, it might say exactly how old he was, as his age seems to vary one or two years on the census. Good luck Smiley Andrea
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 October 04 16:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Andrea I wasnt able to go where i had intended to go today. My son has a wrist injury and is unable to drive. so will go later in the week. I thought maybe i could find the death of  Thomas's Wife Leonora as she was 10 years younger, in cheshire.   or wirral. Didnt have any luck just as was going cross eyed Grin
I came across a Martha McNab who died December 1900 on the wirral.( I went back to that date to see if there was ny Macnabs in the wirral at that time) could she be related to your family. when i came back i went on free B.M.D. You may have done so. I found McNab Deaths in macclesfield, birkenhead, up to 1910. as these are both very close to the wirral (cheshire) they could be related.

Celia P.S if you read this earlier on you will see i have rectified my error Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 October 04 16:40 BST (UK) »

Hi Andrea, an update for you. I decided on leaving the hospital after my physiotherapy(i broke my arm in july Sad) That i would go to Landican and ask about the burial records.Because i just missed the bus they were closed when i got there. After waiting 2 hours for them to open i went back after having a meal in the pub Grin Only to be told that they no longer have the records. they are now in the town hall in birkenhead. She said the records from all the cemetery's are being transcribed into fich. this is wonderfull news and the first i have heard. It will make research so much easier because the plot number will i hope be on them.So i went back into B/Head to the town Hall. where landican said they are open from 2 till 4 monday to Friday. Wrong the desk was. Anyway i have to phone tomorrow befor i go. Hopfully they will have the st cath's index for he 1900. I am going to look for the death in <1936>is that about right? then you can send for a death certificate
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 13 October 04 17:06 BST (UK) »

Andrea i have jut noticed the topic cheshire burials print outs. If i dont have any luck finding the grave plot tomorrow or friday, depending if they have a seat free. maybe you could try that. it should tell you one way or another if your McNabs are in Rake Lane.

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 14 October 04 19:06 BST (UK) »

Hi Andrea well i am sorry to say that after looking through 3 years of burials for Rake lane. There wasnt any macnabs at all in the cemetary 4 the years 1934/5/6.It was the first time i had used those records and i was asked what religion the family was. It seems different ones are seperate. I was then asked if the burial was cemetary or church grave yard. It dawned on me after all these years the difference between the two Roll Eyes  these again are seperate records.The Town hall did not have the St Caths death index as i suspected. The only place that i know of that has the complete St/c/I is Liverpool. Where you will definitely find the death of thomas. once you know where he died and the date. I may be able to look for the burial again. My Grandad was on the record but i knew when he died. if i had known about those burial records three years ago i wouldnt have worn a groove in the cemetary path  :)after spending 2 years previously looking for his grave Cheesy On the record it gives the reference number.I have seen numbers on the very bottom of some grave stones so maybe they are connected. name, age, plot number, and i think occupation.I was suprised it also gave an address not a full one. and the name of the person that conducted the service. so that's very helpfull, there is a member of roots chat that  knows who goes to liverpool .cant remember who Huh 
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Re: Rake Lane Cemetery
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 14 October 04 20:04 BST (UK) »

hmm.....I came from Newcastle in the North East of England origionally and we have a Rake Lane cemetery too! it's in North Shields. If you have no luck in the Liverpool area then check that one out too. North Shields is on the North side of the River Tyne entrance and a well known fishing port Smiley

Just a thought *grin* seeing as you mentioned your relative being a mariner

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« Reply #12 on: Friday 15 October 04 12:13 BST (UK) »

Hello Adele If you have read this topic you will see i havent been much help to Anrea. so have left a message for her for when she comes back. I have a gut feeling though that the family might have moved on. beacause i found deaths in stockport. from 1929. It's handy to know that there is another Rake Lane cemetery though.

Celia
 

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« Reply #13 on: Monday 18 October 04 08:53 BST (UK) »

Hi Celia...and Adele....thank you for all your help...and time..
I know my Ggrandfather lived in Seacombe in 1901 as it says so on the census...and his daughter(my grandmother) Isabel(Leonora, my mother was born there) and also two of his sons all continued  living in Seacombe as well...one of the sons Frederick worked for Camel Laird shipbuilders.
My cousin Julie said her grandfather and his father were buried in the cemetery..Earlston cemetery in Liscard/Wallasey, which I found was Rake Lane.
I dont know of any other explanation other than maybe Thomas and Leonora were buried in Liverpool..and what makes if worse is not knowing when they both died.
I will ask floridagirl if she can help....thank you so much for all the effort you have put in. Its lovely to know there are people out there that want to help.
Cheers
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 19 October 04 14:09 BST (UK) »

Hi Andrea, I have been doing a bit of research for another person.also looking for a Mc in Cheshire this one in the late 1920's. As i was working my way back through the postal directorey for 1920/21 i came across
McNab.
Norman Steward 3 Alice Avenue Parry St Seacombe
In another postal book it was
3 Alice Avenue Andrew St Seacome.
In the Gores Directory for 1912 i came across
Mrs Isabella McNab 11 Chatsworth Avenue Walton.
The following one i cant remember which year book i found it in Roll Eyes because the Mc i was looking for wasnt in the book.I didnt want to get confused so put it back on the shelf Roll Eyes
McNab
Frederick Clark Fitter 34 Marion St Birkenhead

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