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Jan Taylor
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Hi, I wonder if anyone could help me please. My great grandparents are buried in Rake Lane Cemetery. John Thomas and Phoebe Lutas, also their son John and daughter Doris. I am trying to find birth and death dates.
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Jan
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Hi Jan
I might be able to help you but I am not a professional researcher. I spend more time on research in Local places in the winter. so can you give me some clue's as to what you are looking for. If it's a burial i need death year appox & Religion. Where did they live, Area?
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Hi Celia,
Thank you so much for the offer. They are all buried in the same grave. John Thomas Lutas, Phoebe Lutas (nee Roberts) who I think died 1947, John Lutas and Doris Anderson (nee Lutas) who died in 1962. I have found a Phoebe Roberts born in 1864 but from the 1891 census, Phoebe was born in 1870. So really only trying to find her true date of birth.
Jan
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celia
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Hi Jan If it's only Phoebe's correct age you want and the age she died. And she is in the family grave i will only have to look up one burial to find the plot and grave stone Ifit is still standing.Where have you looked for her birth and where was she born  . I will see what i can find in regard to the Family burial On Wednesday. Then if you want and i find the stone i could take a photo. Thats if it ever stops raining  Meanwhile if anyone sents you info on Phoebe's true age let me know.
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Jan Taylor
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Hi Celia
I found Phoebe and John Thomas on the 1901 census and it said she was 31 so that would make her birth date 1870. Also found her in the 1891 Census and it said she was 21. Can't find any record of her birth. The census said she was born in Liverpool. But for some reason my Aunt thought she was born in Wrexham. I do know she had a sister Mary and a sister Pem ... have no idea what Pem was short for.
Thank you so much for checking, it would be a great help!
Jan
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celia
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Hi Jan I forgot the Archives are closed on a Wednesday they are only open Thursday Friday & Saturday Morning.
So I went this morning. There was no point in looking for For the burial of Phoebe.The year Margine is to wide, As you gave a date of 1962 for John Lutas and Doris Anderson. I started in 1961 and went through to 1963. Not one Lutas did i find. The problem seems to be that as i have said different religions. Catholic, C.O.E, Jewish and so on all have thier own burial registers. They also have thier own Burial plots. so if your family was other than C.O.E. (Church Of England) say Catholic i would not find your family on the C.O.E film. The one i use. The other thing is that different branches of the same surname Say two brother families have thier own family grave. I have expained this for others who might not know of this. Religion is an important factor in finding a grave.
Now having said that I did find 1 Anderson she was
Ada Fanny Anderson Buried on 7th May 1963 age 78
Abode. 9 Ellesmere Grove, New Brighton. She is buried in plot 22c. I know that plot so if this is yours let me know.
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Hi Andrea How strange i only found one of your Mc Nabs in Three years. Then this mornng while looking for Jan's Family Surename. I came across two Mc Nabs, dont know if they are yours but!
Maurice Roland Mc Nab buried (cremated remains)
17th April 1962 age 60
Abode Panciaw Manian
Parish-District Anglesey
Mode of Burial first sub
Plot number 9c
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Susan Mc Nab Buried 23rd October 1963, age 9 Hours
Does not give paents Name.
Abode. 48 Egerton St, New Brighton
Plot 23c
Mode of Burial D (sub) These 2 are in seperate graves and plots. I have marked these plots on the map as i am up round that end collecting my Merchant seamen Head Stones. Regards
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Jan Taylor
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Hi Celia,
Thank you ever so much for looking for me. Your time is precious I know and it is so kind of you to take time for strangers.
Thank you again.
Jan
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Hi Jan my time is my own and love looking up burials as long as i am given enough info. It 's somthing to do during our long dreary winters. The Archives i visit is also easy for me to get to. As this is Andrea's Topic i might start my own, in case anyone else ask's me to do a look up. I cant offer because i am a learner Dont fret to much about not finding your birth date. It's only a month ago That i was sent some info giving me the age of my G.G.Grandparents. I waited four years for that. 
Good luck in the future with you tree.
Regards
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Hi Celia,
Got Phoebe's marriage certificate. She was born in 1870, father was William Edward Roberts. She lived on Wilson street. My Aunt still claims she is buried in Rake Lane Cemetary. She thinks she died in the 1940s. Slowly I'm getting a little more information ... but at least I'm getting some! Thanks for anything you can help me with.
Jan
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Hi Jan I am so pleased for you, now you can get moving
I hope you dont think i was disputing the fact your family are in Rake dear. Your Aunt knows best, as you only wanted Pheobe's birth date would i be right in saying you dont want to know her Death date?. Did The Ada Fanny ring any bells with you
Celia
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Hi Andrea I was just about to close down ,but checked my post first. I have had some help from a gentlman in regards to the plots in the cemeterey. They are not marked, i have to go by the map. The plots look easy to find on an airial view but when i am on the ground i get lost :(I took an inscription from a grave Stone, Ages ago but i haven got a date of death  i cant remember if there wasnt one or i didnt take. I have been back loads of times and i still cant find it. Now i am more organized
The McNab i mentioned buried in plot 23c in 1963. I cannot understand because i found the plot, but it hasnt got one single Headstone on it. Only a few cut outs of the grass where plants have been put.When i asked why there was no headstones the gentleman didnt know. He did say it was a paupers plot though. Thats the bit i dont understand. I mean if it was 1863 i could because the family may not have had the money for one, but 1963
Havent looked for the other one yet.I must find out what D (sub) means P.S .Dont forget to tick notify me of replies. you dont need to do it on every post,only the first
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My Great Grandparents are buried here.
Register of grants #2692 purchased on Oct 26, 1922
It is in section 11 and numbered 186
1st interment: Sept 23, 1922 MARY ANN (Simpson) TAYLOR 66 years
2nd interment: Oct 30, 1928 WILLIAM THOMAS TAYLOR 73 years
Registered in the General Register of Private graves Vol 1 Folio 152
A WILLIAM JOHN TAYLOR is also buried there on Dec 23, 1963 aged 80
I will be in London for 5 days later this month and would love to be able to visit the graveside. Can anyone check if they are indeed there and where located at the cemetery. If I can't make it over when I am in London, is there anyone willing to take photos for me?
Thanks so very much
Karen
Glendora, CA
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