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Topic: Monumental Inscriptions Merchant Navy.(Family Graves) Rake Lane cem (Read 15764 times)
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celia
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Hi Every one,
As far as i know the monumental inscriptions for Merchant Seamen.That i have taken From Rake Lane Cemetery over the last two years.Is the only record available, i seem to have now covered all the M.I available to me.I have made two trips but not found anymore.With 10,000 burials in the cemetery and a lot of large spaces on the plots in the older part. There must be hundreds more Merchant seamen buried there.The stones maybe fallen and grassed over(any stones grassed over are in good condition)So if you know your ancestor was a merchant seaman and is buried in Rake lane, but i don't have the M.I.It doesn't mean he is not there. I have to say that most of the M.I's are C.O.E or non conformist, with a few only Catholics.The reason there are so few Catholics is because.Some of the plots have big monuments.They are very close together with not much room to maneuver round so a bit bit dangerous for me.These plot's i call the R.C.P (Rich Catholic Plots  )So thats it. If anyone wants to contribute any Merchant seamen (only)M.I's from any council cemetery in the wirral.(see first page)Be my Guest .I cannot take any photo's of these headstones, though somebody else might oblige
(I can always do a look up for missing M.I's)
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celia
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Hello Purple1
Thank you for contacting me, Please do not be upset that the grave was broken.It was not vandalized by humans but by nature, the plot that the grave is on is only small with over hanging trees.So i would imagine takes longer to dry out. At some point in time at least half of the stones fell over. Eventually grass grew over them so preserving them.I remember the Peers Stone well because of the lovely verse on it. Also because last year i passed that plot and saw your family stone.I was sure it hadn't been there before,then i noticed that there were stone's standing at the back that had been dug up and stood up recently.In fact the men were working on the plot while i was taking the inscription from yours.He told me that your stone had probably broken when it fell.The other half was there at the side because i took a photo of it.The man in the cemetery knows i have a topic on rootschat .I do think he reads it,i was in the cemetery earlier this year and your stone was still there.With so many people doing family trees.I have noticed that they are asking for fallen grave stones to be dug up again. Some people where the is no headstone.Have even put a nice little edging where the grave is and put flowers on it. I am so glad you have a photo of as it was i wish everyone would take photos of family gravestones.
If you would like me to see if the other graves are still intact and you don't have photos.I can find them if you can give me some information
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Purple1
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Dear Celia
Thank you for your reassuring message. I jumped to the vandalism conclusion because my other great grandfathers grave, in Hull cemetery, was broken by vandals. The other graves, that I know of, are those of my parents and grandparents who are all in a Kenworthy grave and my Stansfield Grandparents and Aunt and Uncle in another one close by. I don't know the row numbers but could always find them as we used to visit them when I was a little girl. They are in different rows in the same block near the chapel. I do have photo's of them and as they are in a larger plot so I'll trust they are OK. An aside my Uncle Oswald Stansfield was a groundsman at the cemetery for many years so he could tend the Stansfield grave where he is now buried.
However I could never find the grave of my Great grandmother Amelia Kenworthy who died at 135 Rake Lane on 2nd June 1910
or that of Mabel Hazel and Joseph Rowland Stansfield - infants who died in 1904. I thought they might be in Rake Lane cemetery somewhere Have you come across them?
Thank you for your help
Purple1
Peers Seacombe 1830
Kenworthy & Stansfield Wallasey 1900ish
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celia
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Found these today while in the 1800’s doing burial look ups, bit hard to read in some parts.(These are all Non Conformists)
All merchant Seamen.
1888 Buried 5th Jan Age 83 George Greg Fraser Abode Marinas Home Occ Master Marina. Plot 4c.G.N.15
1890
Buried 2nd Jan Johnathan Black age 67 Plot 7c G.N 26. Abode Marinas Home.
Buried, 20th March Peter Chad???t? Age 72 abode Marinas Home Liscard Plot 7c G.N 20
1891
Buried May 26th Thomas (Ryordon /Ryoden this was very faint) age 34 abode.4, The grove, Seacombe. Plot 7c G.N 27
1892 Buried 12th July. Henry Gibson age 66 abode Marinas Home plot 7c G.N 38
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celia
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I have recently started going round the Catholic Plots.From which i have allready taken M.I's for M.S.Although some i did not do because the graves are to close together for comfort.
The reason for re-doing these plots is to find the Gravestones of ancestors (non navy)That are definitely buried in the cemetery.That i never found,I never did burial look ups for Catholic (so i could find the plot) because they weren't Catholic 
I am however now discoving these people were catholics because i am now finding them. On the Catholic plots there seem to be More R.N. men, than on non Catholic Plots.So I have decided that because i have now run out of M.S Headstones.I will collect R.N ones from all plots that will keep be busy for the next two summers
If you have any M.S or R.N and/or their Family buried in Rake lane and have not found them on the topic.I can always do lookups more so in the winter than summer.So Far no one has claimed any of the M.S's but if they do i will take a photo.I am not sure some will survive winter though.
Royal Navy
I.L.M.O
Simeon Lawton (Engineer R.N) died June 25th 1869 age 39.Interred at R.N. Hospital Stonehouse.
Also. Simeon E.Lawtondied 9th December 1891 age 32.
Lucy Maria widow of the first named, Simeon Lawton,died 2nd september 1904 age 58.
Annie M Lawton daughter of the above,born 18th December 1868 died 29th February 1908.
Lucy Jane Lawton died died 2nd August 1916 aged 53.
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alf
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Hi
If you MI's you would like to share with others why not send them to the below link, they would be appreciated
Alf
http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/genuki/index.html
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Beard, Hobby, Tudor, Smith, Derret, Pratt, Short, Trotman All Gloucestershire
Beard & Hanson, Blackburn, Lancs
Beard & Rudman, Wiltshire
Loosemoore, Lusmore (Varients) Wales, Gloucestershire
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celia
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Hello Alf
I have been asked a couple of times recently,as i have been doing M.N.M.I's for the last three years. and burial lookups + M.I's 18 months i think  for Rake Lane I am still thinking about it  I visit Wishfull thinking often.To be honest the topic and the one for Rake lane both which keep me busy.Now feel like my own websites.People seem to know they are here Besides i like the correspondence. and the personel touch That you dont get in a list of names and no feedback. All of the Merchant Seamen R.N.R. Would i think have been mostly local and based in Liverpool,like my granddad.
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celia
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Thank you Peter Bennett for putting this topic back on the cheshire board for me,It's much appreciated.
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celia
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Merchant Navy I.L.M Of
Thomas marshall Master Marina Died 4th April 1911
and his wife Ann marshall Died 12th March 1920
James. E. Miller who was accidentally killed 30th March 1908 age 65.
Amelia J Miller W.O.A Died 21st May 1894 age 52
Harold Gascoyne Grandson of the above Died 2nd may 1907 age 5 years,
William Jones(Pilot)Husband of Eliza Jones.died 29th July 1908 age 63
William Harold Jones Eldest son of the above died 13th Feb 1897 age 18 and is interned at West Derby cemetery.
Robert Long Jones 3rd son of the above died 15th Jan 1901 age 18.
Florence Esther. Wife of Georg A Prescot and daughter of the above.died 9th Oct 1913
Eliza wife of the above died 4th March 1938 age 85
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celia
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While I was on the 1918 newspaper film today (looking for an orbit) I came across lots and lots of write ups, not the personal column, in just one week. Of Missing or lost at sea, merchant seamen. Some of who had their remains buried in Rake lane. So I will probably find many more of the sailors that no longer have a headstone to take M.I from.
These are just two of the many from.Wallasey News
Sat January 5th edition 1918 The write up of the funeral is long so I have abbreviated it. Mr J Hawkins Military Funeral.in Rake lane yesterday (Friday)When the remains of Mr Joseph Hawkins,who was drowned at sea, was laid to rest.
This one was two columns long half the M.N .top men attended this funeral. Very big funeral.
Saturday March 11th edition 1918
Funeral of Commander A Haughton R.N.R. (Liverpool) President of the Marine Mercantile service association interned at Rake lane on Wednesday
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celia
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Came across these merchant seaman burials in Rake lane
1888
Buried 15th Dec Emmanuel Roch age 58
5th Jan George Gregg Frazer age 83
1889.
Buried 27th Nov.John Kennedy age 99 of liscard
1890
Buried 20th March Peter Chadwick age 72.Marina's home.
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celia
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Wiliam Clement Barber. Died 24th May 1889 age 6 Mts
James Stewart Barber. Died 6th Feb 1898 Age 7 years
Capt Gordon Barber
1st Battalion Queens Own Camoran Highlanders. Killed France in the Great War.22nd July 1916 age 23.
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celia
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Hope these arnt to big,
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