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annaandchester
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HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« on: Wednesday 22 February 06 16:08 UTC (UK) »
I am looking for any connected to the Holmes family in Suffolk

William Holmes born c1871 in Bawdsey
Rhoda Holmes born C1828 in Bawdsey died 1859

and their children

James 1844
Samuel 1846
George 1850
William 1853
Rhoda 03 Nov 1853

All the children are born in Bawdsey

I have 1851, 1861 and 1871 census records for the family

Rhoda then leaves the family and marries into the Harris Family in Kent. The others vanish into the ether.

Anna x

(How imaginative are the family names!!!)
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McLeods - Hartlepool, Liverpool, Inverness(?)
Simpsons - Carlisle, Westmorland
Harris - Carlisle, Kent
Reads - Birmingham and Staffordshire
Allens - Marylebone London
Zych - Poland
Holmes - Bawdsey, Suffolk
Perks - Hampshire
McQueen - Carlisle
Carrick - Carlisle
Haugh - Carlisle
Irving - Irving
Collett - Bredon, Worcester
Harrison - Carlisle
Knight - Carlisle
Thompson - Carlisle
Johnstone - Carlisle
Rogerson - Dumfries and Carlisle
Wood - Ontario
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Re: HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 April 06 16:19 UTC (UK) »
Hi Anna

All the following info taken from Bawdsey parish registers:

Baptisms of children of Thomas and Mary Holmes:
Thomas 21 May 1820
James 1 Sept 1822
John 24 Oct 1824
Hannah 25 Mar 1827
George 11 April 1830
Sorry but could not find a baptism for William

Baptisms of children of Daniel and Rhoda Girling:
Rhoda 15 June 1823
Henry 22nd May 1825

Marriage
William Holmes m. Sarah Garrod
27th October 1840
Fathers: Thomas Holmes, Thomas Garrod (both labourers)
Witnesses: James Dunn, Sarah Godbold

Baptisms of children of William and Sarah Holmes
Thomas 13th June 1841
James 4th June 1843
Mary 5th January 1845

Baptism
Samuel, illegitimate son of Rhoda Girling 
5th July 1846

Burial
Sarah Holmes age 30, 9th May 1847

Marriage
William Holmes (widower) 31 m. Rhoda Girling (spinster) 24
William - labourer / Rhoda - servant
24th December 1847
Fathers: Thomas Holmes and Daniel Girling (labourers)
Presence of: Henry Girling and Hannah Holmes

Baptisms of children of William and Rhoda Holmes
Eleanor 9th October 1848
George 9th Feb 1851
William 12th Feb 1854 (bn 21 Sept 1851)
Rhoda 12th Feb 1854
John 2nd June 1859   
Daniel 3rd June 1859
(looked like 2nd June for John and then the next entry looked like 3rd June, both definitely 1859, sorry  Huh)

Other Burials:
Mary Holmes, age 1 and a half, buried 7th June 1846
Eleanor Holmes, age 5 months, buried 5th November 1848

Kind regards,
Anne
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Re: HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 April 06 16:45 UTC (UK) »
Hi Anna

1841
Street, Bawdsey
Betsy Garrod 55
William Holmes 25 Ag Lab
Sarah do 25
Thomas do 3weeks
All born in county
HO107/1041/2 Pg9

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 April 06 16:48 UTC (UK) »
1841
Bawdsey
Thomas Holmes 50 Ag Lab
Hannah do 14
George do 11
All born in county
HO107/1041/2 Pg16

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 April 06 16:58 UTC (UK) »
Sorry Anna I can't find Rhoda and family in 1841 - no Girlings (various spellings) in Bawdsey. No Rhoda Girling anywhere in Suffolk.

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 April 06 07:03 UTC (UK) »
Wowee - Many thanks for that - that is amazing!!
That helps that line hugely.

Anna x
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McLeods - Hartlepool, Liverpool, Inverness(?)
Simpsons - Carlisle, Westmorland
Harris - Carlisle, Kent
Reads - Birmingham and Staffordshire
Allens - Marylebone London
Zych - Poland
Holmes - Bawdsey, Suffolk
Perks - Hampshire
McQueen - Carlisle
Carrick - Carlisle
Haugh - Carlisle
Irving - Irving
Collett - Bredon, Worcester
Harrison - Carlisle
Knight - Carlisle
Thompson - Carlisle
Johnstone - Carlisle
Rogerson - Dumfries and Carlisle
Wood - Ontario
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Re: HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 April 06 10:28 UTC (UK) »
Hi Anna
Despite the difference in surname I think this must be your Rhoda and family- it definitely starts Gallan but I'm not sure quite how it finishes ?ce ?o
Jan Wink

Bawdsey
Daniel Gallan?? 44 Ag Lab
Rhoda do 42
Rhoda do 18
Henry do 16
nextdoor
Daniel Gallan? 22 Ag Lab
Elizabeth do 22
Robert do 1
All born in county
HO107/1041/2 Pg15
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 April 06 10:50 UTC (UK) »
You said the children vanish after 1871 so assume you've not got this.
Cheers Jan Wink

1901
Howard House Cottage, Ashtead, Surrey
George Holmes Head Mar 50 Coachman (domestic) Suffolk Bawdsey
Jane do Wife do 54 Henley on Thames
RG13/582/20 Pg32
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 April 06 11:02 UTC (UK) »
1891
Headley Rd, Ashstead
George Holmes Head Mar 48 Huh Coachman Bawdsey Suffolk
Jane do wife 45 Oxfordshire Henley on Thames
RG12/546/23 Pg40

Age is crossed through so difficult to read does look like 48 but could be 42. Holmes looks like Holmer.
Cheers Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 02 April 06 11:15 UTC (UK) »
Can't find George in 1881 Huh Or William  Huh but here he is in 1891

The Street, Bawdsey
William Holmes Head S 39 Farm Labourer Bawdsey
RG12/1477/21  Pg10

And 1901
Baedsey Hall, Bawdsey
William Holmes Head M 49 Gardener (Domestic) and Caretaker Bawdsey
Eliza do Wife 53 Suffolk ?Ihen
RG13/1785/22 Pg11

Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 02 April 06 11:19 UTC (UK) »
Can only see James in 1901.

Jan Wink
Seamans Hospital, Greenwich
James Holmes Patient Single 59 Ablebodied Seaman Bawdsey Suffolk
RG13/543/141 Pg7
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 02 April 06 11:25 UTC (UK) »
Samuel goes back to using surname Gurling in 1881

Jan Wink

High St Roydon Essex
Samuel Gurling Lodger 33 Ag Lab Bawdsey
in household of
Arthur Stock Head Mar 49 Lab Hoddesdon Brewery
RG11/1739/38 Pg8
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
janan
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Re: HOLMES Family - Bawdsey Suffolk
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 02 April 06 11:29 UTC (UK) »
William senior is still in Bawdsey in 1881 but has lost his E in Holmes -  can't see him in 1891 or 1901.
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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