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Darren S
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Hello, I hope you can help.
I'm trying to find the origins of a character in my wife's family tree called Kisby Cotching. I have found his entry in the 1861/71/81/91 and 1901 censuses; as you'll see the spelling of his last name and first name vary throughout, and for some reason his surname is completely different in 1861! I've also found his marriage registration.
I cannot find him in 1851 for love nor money, so please could someone see if they can find him in 1841? Part of me thinks that "Kisby"could be an assumed name, and additionally we may be looking for Draper, rather than Cotching (or Cotchin/Cotchings/Scutching/Scutchin/Scutchingson etc.)
1861 census:
Although the first name is spelt slightly differently, and the surname is completely different, this must be the same person, since Kisby Cotching marries Ann Baines and all the children change their surname by 1871! "Breckhill" is presumably "Brick Hill", very close to the Beds border and near Woburn.
Kisbee Draper, 24, b. Breckhill, Bucks, Lodger Head, Leighton Buzzard
Ann Baines, 23, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Housekeeper, Leighton Buzzard
Charles Baines, 2, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Housekeeper Son, Leighton Buzzard
Ann S Baines, 1, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Housekeeper Daur, Leighton Buzzard
1871 census:
Note how Ann, Charles and Ann S Baines above are now all "Cotching". The age of Kisby must be a mistranscription, i.e. it should be 35, not 55. Birth place must be "Beds, Woburn Sands"
Kisby Cotching, 55, b. Bedcks, Woburn Lands, Head, Leighton Buzzard
Ann Cotching, 33, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Wife, Leighton Buzzard
Charles Cotching, 12, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Son, Leighton Buzzard
Ann Cotching, 10, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Daughter, Leighton Buzzard
Elizabeth Cotching, 8, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Daughter, Leighton Buzzard
William Cotching, 6, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Son, Leighton Buzzard
Maria Cotching, 4, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Daughter, Leighton Buzzard
John Cotching, 2, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Son, Leighton Buzzard
1881 census:
A slight variation on the surname spelling.
Kisby Cotchin, 44, b. Woburn Sands, Beds, Head, Leighton Buzzard
Ann Cotchin, 43, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Wife, Leighton Buzzard
William Cotchin, 16, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Son, Leighton Buzzard
Mary Cotchin, 14, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Daughter, Leighton Buzzard
John Cotchin, 12, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Son, Leighton Buzzard
Darney Cotchin, 8, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Daughter, Leighton Buzzard
Thomas Cotchin, 4, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Son, Leighton Buzzard
Ernest Cotchin, 3, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Son, Leighton Buzzard
Sam Cotchin, 3 months, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Son, Leighton Buzzard
1891 census:
Another variation on the surname spelling (and Kisby's age)
Kisby Scotchings, 60, (Place of birth not given), Head, Leighton Buzzard
Ann Scotchings, 53, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Wife, Leighton Buzzard
Thomas Scotchings, 14, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Son, Leighton Buzzard
Ernest Scotchings, 13, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Son, Leighton Buzzard
William Scotchings, 8, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Son, Leighton Buzzard
(Sam Cotching had died in 1882 q1)
1901 census:
Possibly a transcription error in the surname this time...
Kisby Colchin, 66, b. Woburn Sands, Bucks, Head, Leighton Buzzard
Ann Colchin, 63, b. Leighton Buzzard, Beds, Wife, Leighton Buzzard
Marriage registration from IGI:
Kisby Cotching & Ann Baines
26/06/1864, Leighton Buzzard, England
Husband age at marriage: 27
Wife age at marriage: 26
No father of groom/bride given
If someone can help find me where he was in 1841, and the others in the household, I would be very grateful!
Thanks, Darren
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Darren S
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Thanks John, that's fantastic! I thought I'd tried searching for Kirby in 1851, as a likely misspelling, but obviously I hadn't.
That probably means I don't need the 1841 census so badly now - although I suppose it might tell me something else...
Regards, Darren
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Thanks again, John, for that further research you did! 
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Darren S
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Hi Katie,
Through another entirely different source, I have been put in touch with three other people all descended from the Draper family you see in the 1851 census listing above. One of these is Peter Rainbow, a descendent of Eleanor Draper, who married John Rainbow, as shown on the other 1851 listing above.
I'll send you a message as I'm sure you'd like to get in touch with him
Darren
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Dear Serena,
Thanks for your replies. I didn't know about graves in the churches you mentioned, but then I've never been to Leighton Buzzard! If you would be so kind to take any details you think might be relevant, that would be fantastic.
You are right that William Cotching, whom you mention, was one of Kisby's 14 or more children, I'd already found his record.
Kisby died in 1925, aged 90, a pretty good age for someone of his lifestyle! I don't know when his wife died. His death was registered in Leighton Buzzard district, but I can't be more specific than that.
Another contact of mine had found that jail record; also imprisoned at the same time was John Baines, his brother in law (Ann's brother).
It turned out that Cotchings was actually Kisby's mother's maiden name; I personally don't believe he would have been that bothered by going to jail to change his name, though. I suspect he might not have got on with his father. At least of his brothers also changed surname to Smith, for no apparent reason!
There's certainly a lot of detail about this colourful family that we'll never find out!
Regards, Darren
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