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Thomas BRIDGEWATER (illegitimate) 1841 census/IGI
« on: Friday 24 February 06 14:52 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I have found the marriage certificate of my ancestor, Thomas Bridgewater, b. c. 1823 in Stoke, Shropshire. I already have info on him for the 1861, 1871, 1881, etc. censuses.

According to the marriage certificate, his mother's name is Hannah Bridgewater. He was illegitimate! Could someone please see if they appear in the 1841 census or IGI?

Does anyone have any advice for finding likely candidates for the paternity of illegitimate children in genealogical research? How can I find clues as to who the father might be?

Thanks,

Nicholas J. Bridgewater
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Re: Thomas BRIDGEWATER (illegitimate) 1841 census/IGI
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 February 06 20:38 GMT (UK) »

Hi  NicholasJB,

This is from the IGI.

Thomas Bridgewater was Christened 14 January  1826

Stoke Saint Milborough, Shropshire

Mother Hannah Bridgewater

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Re: Thomas BRIDGEWATER (illegitimate) 1841 census/IGI
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 February 06 18:28 GMT (UK) »

Thank you very much Frances.

I hope that they may also be found in the 1841 census.

Would someone please be able to check?

Thanks,

Nicholas J. Bridgewater Smiley
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Scotland: Eaton (Ayton), Bell, Carr, Carrie (Kerrie), Cobb, Fyfe, Kent, Miller, Ochterlony (Auchterlonie), Taylor
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Re: Thomas BRIDGEWATER (illegitimate) 1841 census/IGI
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 February 06 20:11 GMT (UK) »

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WILLIAM BRIDGEWATER 
Christening:  02 MAR 1828   Stoke Saint Milborough, Shropshire
Mother:  HANNAH BRIDGEWATER 

You need to check with Shropshire record office to see whether a 'Bastardy Order' was made and has survived for either of the children.

A possible baptism for Hannah (but you would need to check against censuses)

HANNAH BRIDGWATERS 
Christening:  13 AUG 1806   Stoke Saint Milborough, Shropshire
Father:  EDWARD BRIDGWATERS 
Mother:  ELIZABETH 

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 February 06 12:19 GMT (UK) »

Hi Valda,

Thanks. This really helps. If she had two illegitimate children, it might be easier to find the father, as he may have been a steady partner.

What is the legal purpose of a bastardy order?

I hope she can be found in 1841 as this might lead to some further clues. She might even appear with the father.

Many thanks,

Nicholas
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 February 06 18:27 GMT (UK) »

If the parish had pushed Hannah to obtaining a Bastardy order or orders, or were obtaining such an order on her behalf then you wont find the father (or fathers) living with her. It was basically the equivalent of a maintenance order. The parish would be very keen to get Hannah to claim maintenance so the upkeep of the children did not fall onto the local ratepayers. In small parishes people didn't ususally live together.

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Re: Thomas BRIDGEWATER (illegitimate) 1841 census/IGI
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 March 06 15:08 GMT (UK) »

I got the following reply from the Shropshire Records Office:

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Dear Mr. Bridgewater,
Thank you for your e-mail concerning the above. I am afraid that for
the majority of parishes in Shropshire no bastardy orders have survived and
none have survived for Stoke St. Milborough.Occasionally in the case of
a dispute reference is made in the Quarter Sessions orders but there is
nothing relevant in the Quarter Sessions orders 1823-8. In many cases
no order was made at all.

I am sorry we cannot be of help.
Yours sincerely,
Alison Healey (Mrs.)
Researcher

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England: Booth, Bridgewater, Brown, Buckley, Cooper, Hopley, Holt, Hughes, Kirkham, Laughton (Lawton/Lotton), Lewis, Stevenson, Tunley, Yates

Scotland: Eaton (Ayton), Bell, Carr, Carrie (Kerrie), Cobb, Fyfe, Kent, Miller, Ochterlony (Auchterlonie), Taylor
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