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Re: Brindley Henry
« on: Wednesday 29 September 04 04:03 BST (UK) »

hello it's me again. I have been stdying the dates for my Henry Brindley and it seems he may have had a 5-6yr army service back in England 1845-1851 after 6yrs in East Indies. He may have married in England at this time and had Susanna nr 1851 and then went with the army to Cape of Good Hope with his new family. Somewhere along the way his wife died as he remarried in Western Australia in 1864. This is speculation at this point, but it seems to fit the dates perfectly.
If you could look at the entries in the the 1851 census again for Henry and/or Susanna i would be grateful.
kind regards Phyllys.
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« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 October 04 16:29 BST (UK) »

Hi Phyllys
                Having looked once again I have found there are no records in Macclesfield for Henry in the 1851 census,nor is there a marriage, or a birth for any Susana's other than the one born 1855 and died 1859.
               Looking at your other posts you say he joined the army 1839 in Lancashire and served 20 years, does this mean you have his army records? if so where was he discharged ?

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 October 04 01:52 BST (UK) »

thanks for your time and patience with me Peter.
I have a type written copy of Henry's Army records given to me by a relative. It says he was discharged at King William's Town, being unfit for service,26th december 1859.
Further into the records there is a report from Chatham Hospital 2nd June 1860.. Medical Examination..
"having examined private henry brindley, I am of the opinion he is unfit for further service in consequnece of impaired use of right ankle joint. the result of fracture. Horse Guards discharge 24th July 1860.".
Was it unusual for a soldier to be in the army for 21yrs and still be a private?
the report was one from Sue Baddley, who is I believe a professional researcher, for my relatve.
Henry's injury it seems didn't prevent him from being appointed a Pensioner Guard on the convict ship "York" to Australia in 1862.
Thanks again for you interest Peter, kind regards Phyllys
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 October 04 16:41 BST (UK) »

Hi Phyllys

              Having read your last reply I thought that it may be best if we found his Military units movements during his serice time, with this in mind I sent of a few questions to a Military researcher that I know off, and this was his reply.

In answer to your questions... it was very common for soldiers not to rise above the rank of Private, I have a large amount of medals in my possession of men who were never promoted and yet had spotless careers.
You mentioned the Horse Guards, but then all discharges were signed by the Horse Guards as the final authority for the discharge, this was not his unit, this will be found on the first page of his documents along with a description of the places outside of the Home command (i.e. Britain & Ireland) that he served in.
If you can provide his unit.. I might be able to provide some movements!


If you have the information re his army unit could you please post a reply.

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 October 04 01:09 BST (UK) »

thank you agan Peter. Henry Brindley joined the army in 1839 in the 1st Battalion 2nd Regiment of Foot. (Infantry).
He served for 20yrs 202 days, 14yrs 5 months abroad. East Indies 4yrs 11 months and Cape of Good Hope (South Africa) 8 yrs 6 months. He was awarded 5 good conduct badges with pay and HIS ?? and a good conduct medal with $% annuity.
Service time 2nd Regiment of Foot and 2nd Queens Regiment.
The Passenger list for "York". The ship Henry came to Australia on list him as 27th Regiment.
We have been unable to find out anything of his private life before coming to Australia.
thanks again for you interest.
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 05 November 04 19:41 GMT (UK) »

Hi Phyllis noticed your request for help and i think i help you. Your Henry Brindley is the brother of Elizabeth Brindley my 3xgt. grandmother who married George Hooley at Prestbury in 1830. Their father was Henry Brindley a farmer of Sutton who died in 1821 leaving five children orphaned.
His will,inventory,administration and tuition are available from Cheshire R.O.
Also there is another will at Chester for Henry Brindley 1817 who died 1810
who is your Henry's grandfather. I have not found an entry for your Henry living in the Macclesfield area in 1851 & 1841.
I hope this information is useful.   
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 November 04 03:23 GMT (UK) »

Dear Alan , how exciting my thanks to you for the info. We have never been able to find anything about our Henry except his Army records which were sent by a professional researcher engaged by another relative here in Australia. Henry spent all of his life in the army.  In a previous submission I mentioned that Henry has a 5-6yr army service gap, perhaps he spent this time in service in England, the years would probably be1845-1851. This would be why he is not recorded as living in the Macclesfireld in1841 or 1851.
He brought a daughter, Susanna, to Australia with him. No wife. Do you know if Henry married in England and had Susanna or maybe he had a wife in India or Africa. We have no photo of Henry but we do have one of Susanna.
I shall try to follow up the records in Cheshire.
Please send mail to my email which is available on this site so that we can exchange further info on the family.
thanks so much for taking the time to reply, kind regards Phyllys.
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 November 04 02:02 GMT (UK) »

Alan where are you?
I am very excited about your previous message. I have also just madde contact with someone else who is a descendant of your Elizabeth. Are the other siblinds, Susanna, Ann and Samuel? These are all family names in our Henry's family tree.
Please contact me either here or vis my email address above, kind regards Phyllys.
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 November 04 11:44 GMT (UK) »

Hi Phyllys

              Can I recommend that you send Alan a personnel message with your email address on, and then delete it from the currant post on the Cheshire board, this will stop any harvesting your address and sending spoof mail.

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« Reply #9 on: Thursday 11 November 04 23:37 GMT (UK) »

Dear peter, thanks I will try to do that. regards Phyllys
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 19 November 04 10:42 GMT (UK) »

Just a thank you. I have not solved my problem of henry bridley however through this site I have some very good clues on where to look. I do appreciate the help. Phyllys
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