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woodensue
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keeping same surname
« on: Monday 27 February 06 17:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Just wondering if any of you have married women who have married a man with same surname!
I Was a Miss Wood and married a Mr Wood ............. no relation! just wonder how common this is?

also have ancestor in 1880s whose first wife died so he married her sister..............

Had day of ill today so have been busy on Family History! would love to do it again tomorrow but dont think the Head Teacher at school would approve!

Have fun Sue
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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 February 06 17:20 UTC (UK) »

I have a Thomas Crampton who married a Margaret Crampton -
and just to add to the confusion both their fathers were called Thomas as of course was their first son! Roll Eyes

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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 February 06 19:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi

The paternal side of my dads family originate from a small village called Ulpha in Cumberland.  I have gone back as far as 1700 and there are four families that are so intermingled ie Stephenson, Casson, Dawson and Tyson that someone surely must have married someone they shouldn't have, at some time.

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PS I always wondered why I had hair growing on the back of my hands (lol)
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Bedfordshire: Chapman, Norris
Cumberland:  Bone, Casson, Ellwood, Harrington, Harrison, Huddleston, Mawson, Rooney, Singleton, Stephenson, Tunstall, Tyson, Wedgwood, Whitehead, Wilson, Woodall
Hertfordshire:  Chapman, Seymour
Ireland:  Macken, McAvoy, Rooney
Lancashire:  Casson, Dixon, Huddleston, Hunter, Muschamp, Skirrow Stephenson, Tyson
Staffordshire:  Burslem, Tunstall, Wedgwood
Yorkshire:  Harrison, Lund, Roberts, Swire


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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 00:05 UTC (UK) »

Hello half pint - read your post with interest - I live probably 45 mins drive away from Ulpha - it is a gorgeous village, with a churchyard so beautiful and peaceful that, the first time I went there, I said it would be worth moving here, just so I could be buried here!

Beautiful as it was, I remember seeing one gravestone for some poor soul who had died in the snow on the fell - the winter can be fierce up there and it is so very remote - even today.

Have you ever been there yourself?
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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 00:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi

My dad was born in Egremont and so have been there many times, but I hadn't been to Ulpha until last September.

Whatever words are used, they cannot do justice to the beauty of the village and its surroundings.  We were very lucky and it was really sunny and warm and it showed it at its best, but as you say, I would dread to be stranded up there in the middle of winter.

While we were in Cumberland, we went down the Florence Mine, just outside Egremont.  It was a slope of 285 feet and I was absolutely terrified but the feelings I had when I stood probably in the same area as my grandad and 2 x gr grandfathers actually worked were worth every second of terror.

Its amazing, my dad was two when he came down to Leicester, and I have never spent more than a week at a time in Cumberland but when we go up there it is just like going home.

I know it sounds really awful,  but my husband is a few years older than me and I have said that if he goes before me then I shall move up there.

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Bedfordshire: Chapman, Norris
Cumberland:  Bone, Casson, Ellwood, Harrington, Harrison, Huddleston, Mawson, Rooney, Singleton, Stephenson, Tunstall, Tyson, Wedgwood, Whitehead, Wilson, Woodall
Hertfordshire:  Chapman, Seymour
Ireland:  Macken, McAvoy, Rooney
Lancashire:  Casson, Dixon, Huddleston, Hunter, Muschamp, Skirrow Stephenson, Tyson
Staffordshire:  Burslem, Tunstall, Wedgwood
Yorkshire:  Harrison, Lund, Roberts, Swire


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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 10:32 UTC (UK) »


My GG Grandfather, Humphrey Jones, married an Elizabeth Jones.

My G Grandfather, James Jones, married a Phoebe Jones.

My Grandmother, Cecilia Jones, married a Richard Jones.

Thankfully, my Dad broke the chain and married a Lewis Grin

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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 11:25 UTC (UK) »

Goodness me, Jan!!!  Shocked  Roll Eyes

You have a surfeit of Joneses, and it's a dreadful name to research at the best of times!!

Two of my g grandparents were William Justin Beauchamp Cameron (born Ireland, came to Australia at age 14 to an uncle, without his parents!) and Elizabeth Patricia Cameron, born Victoria, Australia. 

The story of how they met is rather lovely.  William was riding through Central Queensland on his way to a particular place.  Elizabeth's younger brother had been sent on an errand with a horse and cart.  He had had to camp during the night, and his horse had wandered off, and he had bad toothache.  William came across the boy crying in despair beside his cart, and took pity on him.  He found the horse and harnessed it up, and took the boy home where his good deed was rewarded by meeting Elizabeth, a pretty young woman of 18.  He became a frequent visitor and eventually they were married, although her elder brother did not think him nearly good enough for his sister, and referred to him disparagingly as "The Wild Irishman"!!!

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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 12:09 UTC (UK) »

Hello

Some of my ancestors came from Merriott in Somerset, where on several occasions they have married people with the same surname.

Sampson Pattemore m Susannah Pattemore in 1839 (4xg-grandparents)
and Sampson's father John Pattemore m Charlotte Pattemore in 1808.

This isn't surprising when the Merriott Genalogies website states that 52% of the population shared just 10 surnames. (Total pop. is just 1500 people).

And, like Half Pint, considering the village's size and looking at parish records which show several intermarriages i wouldn't be surprised if my ancestors had children with a close relation  Undecided and everyone in the village at the end of the 19th C was related to everyone else. The website also says that because the frequency of surnames was so high, people were given nicknames to separate them from other people with the same name!

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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 15:31 UTC (UK) »



I have found 2 couples in my family marrying another person with the same surname.

Bessie Burrow married her first cousin Isaac William Burrow in 1890. Their fathers were brothers.
Bessies father was my gt gt grandfather. Her brother William was my gt grandfather.

And I have a Fanny Burrow married to Thomas Burrow back in 1797. I'm pretty sure they were related but havent worked out how yet. Fanny's father was William Burrow and Thomas's father was - another Thomas of course.  Grin

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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 02 March 06 16:35 UTC (UK) »

It happened twice to the same man

John Cock b 1694, married Elizabeth Cocke who died, then Mary Cock

Later , when the family is now called Cocks, my mother's uncle and godfather Richard  Bond Cocks married Sarah Cocks

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coppernob
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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 14 March 06 20:40 UTC (UK) »

I have a robert bowers marrying his cousin once removed susannah bowers.

That is one confusing branch of my tree.     Coppernob
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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 08 August 09 09:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Old message, but I recall my father pointing out a house in Waikanae, NZ, in which lived a doctor whose surname was Doctor, who had married a nurse whose surname was Nurse....

Rick  (NZ)
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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 08 August 09 09:45 UTC (UK) »

HEHEHE Grin Smiley



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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 08 August 09 11:31 UTC (UK) »



An ancestor of mine Mary Borthwick married an Adam Borthwick.   Their fathers names were both Adam Borthwick,  Mary died at an early age,  so Adam married her sister.  Lips Sealed....    I am almost 100% sure their grandfathers names were Adam.     Now researching to see if they came from the same part of Mid Lothian, Scotland.    Looking forward to finding out.  Wink

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Re: keeping same surname
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 08 August 09 16:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I have a James Smyth who married a Ann Smyth i am sure the were related probably cousins as Anns two sisters Rebeca Smyth and Eliza Smyth married off most of their children too each other one pair being my gt. grandfather and gt. grandmother i'm surprised by the amount of inbreeding that my family are quite normal although when i told my dad about all this he just refused to believe it all which made me laugh then he kept trying to justify it all which made me laugh even more

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