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THORNHILL look up please
« on: Friday 01 October 04 22:29 BST (UK) »

please could anyone do the following look ups?
1841 CENSUS-WILLIAM THORNHILL b.abt 1820 Shipley Derbys-father SAMUEL, mother ELIZABETH

1871 and 1891 census -WILLIAM THORNHILL b. abt 1862 Shipley-father RICHARD B. 1831 Shipley, mother HANNAH

1841 /51 CENSUS-RICHARD THORNHILL b 1831 Shipley

1841/51 CENSUS-RICHARD THORNHILL b 1829 Shipley

They are two different RICHARDS-both married Hannahs (Parker and Clifford) and they lived a few doors away from each other at some time!!
They should be found in Shipley, Heanor, Ilkeston area

A bit complicated!!! Help would be appreciated.
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Re: THORNHILL look up please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 October 04 08:37 BST (UK) »

Here's a small part of your request! The 1871 for William,who has been transcribed as Willian.
Living at Dunnbles??? Shipley. Dad is a coal miner!!! Roll Eyes



Anne Thornhill 7  Ilkeston Daughter  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Artha Thornhill 1  Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Son  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Clara Thornhill 3  Shipley Daughter  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Hannah Thornhill 35  Codnor Wife  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Mary Jane Thornhill 14  Langley Daughter  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Richard Thornhill 36  Shipley, Derbyshire, England Head  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Richard Thornhill 5  Shipley Son  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Willian Thornhill 9  Ilkeston Son  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   

You're not kidding, sounds very confusing!  Grin


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Rogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas
Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire
Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset
Jenner,Clapham Surrey
Kendrick,Liverpool
Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
Blake and Maloney from  Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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Re: THORNHILL look up please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 October 04 10:21 BST (UK) »

Thank you -thats def them
The address is "The Dumbles"
That's another little corner of the puzzle!
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Re: THORNHILL look up please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 October 04 11:45 BST (UK) »

Hi

Found 2 Richards in the 1851 census index of Derbyshire.
Folio 2126 - 115 9

Samuel Thornhill aged 59
George Thornhill          38
Ann Thornhill               25
Thomas Thornhill         24
Fanny Thornhill           22
Richard Thornhill         19
Elizabeth Thornhill        3

Folio 2126- 20 121
Samuel Thornhill aged 43
Caroline Thornhill         36
Richard Thornhill          16
Emma Thornhill            14
Harriett Thornhill          11
Ann Thornhill                  9
William Thornhill             7
Eliza     Thornhill             5
Millicent Thornhill            2

Folio 2126 does cover the Shipley area. This is from an index only so does not give any other information.

Hope it helps a bit.
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Re: THORNHILL look up please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 October 04 16:39 BST (UK) »

Are these yours in 1881? I've had no luck finding any of them in 1891 yet. Keep coming across the OTHER Richard and his family though.Do you want them?
There are too many girls in yours who must be married by 91 Roll Eyes


Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Richard THORNHILL   Head   W   Male   47   Shipley, Derby, England   Coal Miner     
Clara THORNHILL   Daugr      Female   13   Shipley, Derby, England   Scholar     
Arthur THORNHILL   Son      Male   11   Eastwood, Nottingham, England   Scholar     
Hannah THORNHILL   Daugr      Female   7   Shipley, Derby, England   Scholar     


  Dwelling   Shipley Road Cottage
  Census Place Shipley, Derby, England
  Family History Library Film   1341793
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   3325 / 37
  Page Number   13
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Rogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas
Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire
Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset
Jenner,Clapham Surrey
Kendrick,Liverpool
Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
Blake and Maloney from  Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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Re: THORNHILL look up please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 October 04 17:41 BST (UK) »

Yes these are mine-maybe you wont find them on 1891 -. At some time between 1881 and 1901  richard had remarried (eliza baker) and they had 3 children together(first one bef marriage)-By  1901 they had moved to Glass Houghton Yorks=leaving children from 1st marriage behind-some married , others "in service" in Notts /Derby area.
Thankyou so much for your help
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Re: THORNHILL look up please
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 October 04 20:04 BST (UK) »

Oh well now you say that!!! Here's Richard and Eliza in 1891 at 23 Union Street Whitwood,Normanton,Yorks.
Still not found William though  Sad

Thornhill, Betsy A 9 Carlton, Yorkshire Daughter  Whitwood  Yorkshire   
Thornhill, Eliza 34 Clay cross, Derbyshire Wife  Whitwood  Yorkshire   
Thornhill, Eliza 4 Normanton, Yorkshire Daughter  Whitwood  Yorkshire   
Thornhill, Harry 7.12 Whitwood, Yorkshire Son  Whitwood  Yorkshire   
Thornhill, Richard 49 Shipley, Derbyshire Head  Whitwood  Yorkshire   
Thornhill, Robert 8 Cudworth, Yorkshire Son  Whitwood  Yorkshire   

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Rogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas
Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire
Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset
Jenner,Clapham Surrey
Kendrick,Liverpool
Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
Blake and Maloney from  Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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Re: THORNHILL look up please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 October 04 20:45 BST (UK) »

Thankyou so much-have fitted lots more pieces in today
Thankyou Sunflower too -all info has been veryhelpful-cant believe the 2 Richards who both married hannahs-both had fathers called samuel!!!
Where are you William- I know where he was in 1901-Bridge Street langley Mill-married to Elizabeth
In 1881 he was a servant at Quelgreaves Farm Shipley
Wonder what he was up to in 1891???
Thank you all-only a little puzzle to do now!
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Re: THORNHILL look up please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 October 04 15:49 BST (UK) »

Thornhill, Hannah 34 Denby, Derbyshire Wife  Stapenhill  Staffordshire   
Thornhill, James T 2 Stapenhill, Derbyshire Son  Stapenhill  Staffordshire   
Thornhill, John W 6 Stapenhill, Derbyshire Son  Stapenhill  Staffordshire   
Thornhill, Sarah E 9 Stapenhill, Derbyshire Daughter  Stapenhill  Staffordshire   
Thornhill, William 30 Mickleover, Derbyshire Head  Stapenhill  Staffordshire 
ag farm labourer
1891 census
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Re: THORNHILL look up please
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 27 October 04 17:39 BST (UK) »

thanks for looking-that isn't my william tho-the "Mickleover" Thornhills are very distant relativs tho!
My William married Elizabeth Cresswell 1897 and  then lived at Langley Mill Derbys I have a gap between 1881 and 1897- i think when he married he had recently been a solsier-and had served in India-but that is only family recollections-no definate proof anywhere
Thanks, Sue
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Re: THORNHILL look up please
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 28 October 04 04:41 BST (UK) »

WILD CARDS
British Army Pensioners in India 1800-1857






THORNHILL, James 14th Regiment of Foot 13 Jun 1832
 Vol 35 p.67



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Thornhill Ellen Drummond Jas. D. 1868 123 70
MARRIAGE

Thornhill Anna J. Smart Edward de S. 178 108 1881

Thornhill Henry B. Wheeler Margaret M. 180 107 1882
Madras Staff Corps Officers in Hart’s Army List - 1873 ••
Madras Staff Corps Officers in Hart's Arrmy List - 1873
  ...THORNHILL Anthony Lieutenant-Colonel Madras Staff Corps THORPE Robert * Captain Madras Staff Corps TIGHE James Major Madras Staff Corps...
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Indian Civil Service Officers - 1873 •••
Indian Civil Service Officers - 1873 <META NAME=
  ...KEMP LOCH BAYLEY MUIR BEAUFORT TURNBULL SHAKESPEAR ABERCROMBIE THORNHILL CARNAC PEARSON INGLIS WAUCHOPE LIND STRACHET SCHALCH DRUMMOND MONEY CAMPBELL...
  ...DANIELL (2) BAINBRIDGE MELVILL SIMSON LANE WATERFIELD GORDON WARD ROBERTSON THORNHILL HARRISON COLVIN (3) BROWNE BARLOW LYALL (2) PRINSEP GRANT (3)...
  ...ELLIS(2) FRASER ROBINSON(2) CADELL HODGSON ARBUTHNOTT(2) WEDDERBURN SIM THORNHILL INNES MINCHIN FOORD Second Class (20 Years' Standing) BALLARD...
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Family History in India
Madras Staff Corps Officers in Hart's Army List - 1873

1857 ••
 


THORNHILL Anthony  Lieutenant-Colonel Madras Staff Corps 
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Re: THORNHILL look up please
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 28 October 04 16:09 BST (UK) »

newall 1841 census COULD BE THORNHILL
             Yes
590  35    Sarah       THORNEWILL    F     35                             Yes
591  35    Mary        THORNEWILL    F     13                             Yes
592  35    Emma        THORNEWILL    F     11                             Yes
593  35    William     THORNEWILL    M     10                             Yes
594  35    Thomas      THORNEWILL    M     7                              Yes
595  35    Elizabeth   THORNEWILL    F     3                              Yes
596  35    Francis     THORNEWILL    M     1                              Yes
597  35    Francis     THORNEWILL    M     70        engineer             Yes
598  36    Sarah       THORNEWILL    F     75                             Yes






324  30    Thomas      THORNEWILL    M     47        Grocer Publican         Yes
325  30    Hannah      THORNEWILL    F     50                                Yes
326  30    Mary        THORNEWILL    F     24                                Yes
327  30    Hannah      THORNEWILL    F     20                                Yes
328  30    Harriott    THORNEWILL    F     13                                Yes
329  30    Elizabeth   THORNEWILL    F     2                                 Yes
330  30    Sarah       THORNEWILL    F     8 mths                            Yes
331  30    Thomas      ORME     
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