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greensleeves
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Mary PEARL b. 1832, Brettenham -COMPLETED, WITH THANKS
« on: Sunday 19 April 09 08:11 UTC (UK) »

Mary Pearl seems to have had a rather interesting/traumatic life, and I have found her in the various censuses apart from 1871 and can't seem to track her down for that year.  I'd appreciate any thoughts on where to search.  Here is the story as far as I can make out:

Mary had 3 children: Samuel Pearl b. 1852, Lamanie Wilkin  Pearl b. 1854, John Pearl b. 1861.  I had assumed they were all born out of wedlock but as she married Frederick Wilkin March Q/1860, Stow (thanks to chatroom searchers for finding this for me!) this makes John legitimate.  But  he is always referred to as 'Pearl' and in the 1861 census he and Samuel are with grandparents (John and Susan Pearl) at Brettenham shown as 'son' on census. Mary & Frederick Wilkin  are at Beyton, Suffolk with Lamanie, now called Wilkin, the name she was using when she married in 1875.

The next appearance is in 1881 when Mary is living alone in Woolpit, a few doors away from Samuel and his family.
Mary later remarries (whilst Frederick is still alive Shocked) and Frederick dies in the Bury St Edmunds workhouse.

But what I want to know is where they all were in 1871, because I can't find any of them in that census.  So I would appreciate new eyes looking at this one for me, because I've got to the stage where I can't find the wood for the trees!
Many thanks,
Greensleeves
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Suffolk: Pearl(e) & variations - Brettenham, Hitcham,Rattlesden; Waddilove - Rattlesden and possibly Norfolk.  Garnham - Belstead, Ipswich & area. 
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick - West Hartlepool, Middlesbrough, Leeds, Merrington.
Shadforth - Hartlepool/Stockton
annes
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Re: Mary PEARL b. 1832, Brettenham
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 April 09 15:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi Greensleeves

Sorry, I can't help with your 1871 query, but found a few baptisms in the Brettenham register.

Mary Ann d/o John and Susannah Pearle
baptised 25th December 1832

Samuel s/o Mary Pearl of Brettenham
baptised 7th November 1852

I could not see the other two baptisms at Brettenham, nor Mary's marriage.

Best wishes
Anne
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Re: Mary PEARL b. 1832, Brettenham
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 April 09 16:10 UTC (UK) »

After much searching the only Mary Wilkin I can come up with for 1871 Census is:
Mary Wilkin  Age 42  un married   servant   born Roughham

Rg 10   1706   folio 25  page2   Thaxted  Essex.

Rougham is about 8 miles from Brettenham  quite near Beyton.
I have some doubts about this being the right one, she may not have been altogether truthful.

Regards  Amber39
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Norfolk: Copling,Coppen ,Oakley, Vertigans,Mallowes/Mallis.
Suffolk:  Grist, Scopes, Bullenthorpe. Knights
Cambs.: Wilson, Andrews.
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Re: Mary PEARL b. 1832, Brettenham
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 April 09 19:18 UTC (UK) »

Very many thanks for this info, Anne and Amber; much appreciated.  The searchers in the chatroom found Mary's marriage to Frederick Wilkin: March Q 1860, Stow - I couldn't find it either!

Interesting the Thaxted entry, Amber; Frederick's mother lived at Rougham so Mary Pearl had links there.  But if she was in service in 1871, I wonder what had happened to the children.   Hmm, I see from my notes that Lamanie married a Henry Rickwood at Rougham in 1875, so perhaps she was in that area.

Thanks again to you both for your help,
Regards
Greensleeves
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Suffolk: Pearl(e) & variations - Brettenham, Hitcham,Rattlesden; Waddilove - Rattlesden and possibly Norfolk.  Garnham - Belstead, Ipswich & area. 
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick - West Hartlepool, Middlesbrough, Leeds, Merrington.
Shadforth - Hartlepool/Stockton
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Re: Mary PEARL b. 1832, Brettenham
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 April 09 21:19 UTC (UK) »

I just looked up Mary's marriage to Frederic (spelt without the k ) and it was as you said  1860  (1)  and the ref.  is
4a  571  at Stow.
Just in case you want the marriage certificate.

Regards   Amber39
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Norfolk: Copling,Coppen ,Oakley, Vertigans,Mallowes/Mallis.
Suffolk:  Grist, Scopes, Bullenthorpe. Knights
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Re: Mary PEARL b. 1832, Brettenham
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 April 09 05:07 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for the marriage info, Amber; think I'll have to follow that up so I can find out a bit more!

But guess what, I have found Lamanie in the 1871!  She is in service (aged 16) in Bury St Edmunds, but she has been transcribed as Samani.  It's amazing how many variations of her name there are, though I must admin I've never come across it before.  In one census, for example, she is given as Lemonia, but that might be another  transcriber's error.  So whilst it is useful to have an unusual name to search, it also causes problems because no-one can spell it!

Greensleeves
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Suffolk: Pearl(e) & variations - Brettenham, Hitcham,Rattlesden; Waddilove - Rattlesden and possibly Norfolk.  Garnham - Belstead, Ipswich & area. 
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick - West Hartlepool, Middlesbrough, Leeds, Merrington.
Shadforth - Hartlepool/Stockton
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