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sunnyg1rl05
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Hi ive only just joined roots today, been searching for my family tree for a month now and ive hit a brick wall, just phoned shrewsbury records to order a birth certificate of my gt grandad Walter Charles and they require mothers maidenname this is where im stuck as i have a name but not sure if it is the right one his dad is Thomas Charles ive got Ann bevan as walters mum.
would the office still be able to give me walters birth certificate without a maiden name.
kaz
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warwickshire: blakeman
somerset, taunton: hallet
shropshire, bridgnorth, cleobury mortimer: foxall, poyner,charles
worcestershire: hardwick
Gloucestershire: Smith, Pearse
monmouth:pontypool, meredith,
Caernarvon: humphreys
denbighshire, evans
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Gadget
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Hi Kaz
Welcome 
They don't really need his mother's maiden name unless you have asked for a search. Father's name should do.
Do you have the reference?
In fact, most of us have acquired birth certs just to find out mother's maiden name.
Gadget
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sunnyg1rl05
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Im going to sound really thick now lol what did you mean when you mentioned reference in your post.
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warwickshire: blakeman
somerset, taunton: hallet
shropshire, bridgnorth, cleobury mortimer: foxall, poyner,charles
worcestershire: hardwick
Gloucestershire: Smith, Pearse
monmouth:pontypool, meredith,
Caernarvon: humphreys
denbighshire, evans
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Gadget
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Hi Kaz
Each birth, marriage and death certificate has two reference numbers. One is the one the local office gives and one is the national General Records Office number. These are index numbers to an actual page in the book of registrations. Everyone can access the index, and get the number, but you can only get a copy of the full entry by paying for it, usually quoting the ref. number. If you don't know the number, the local office will run a search for you first.
The local number is a string of letters and numbers - specific to the office, the national one is made up of: Year (1837 - present), Quarter (e.g the three month period that the registration occured in - Mar, Jun, Sept, Dec), Registration District (i.e. Shrewsbury), Volume number (I think Shrewsbury is 6b), and page number.
I'm assuming that you are going local, so you are asking them for a look-up of their index first. They should be able to find it without needing the mother's maiden name. That is, if you have given them a narrow date range and the name of the father - Charles is not a common name like Jones/Smith, etc
Another way of getting the certificate is by ordering it from the GRO. Here you will need the national ref number. You could try searching FreeBMD, Ancestry or 1837online for this.
Reading all this, it might be a bit confusing  There is probably a thread on one of the other boards that might help. I'll check and get back to you.
Gadget
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sunnyg1rl05
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Hi Gadget.
thank you so much for your help i`ll givwe them all the info i have in the hope they`ll find his certificate.
kaz
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warwickshire: blakeman
somerset, taunton: hallet
shropshire, bridgnorth, cleobury mortimer: foxall, poyner,charles
worcestershire: hardwick
Gloucestershire: Smith, Pearse
monmouth:pontypool, meredith,
Caernarvon: humphreys
denbighshire, evans
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Gadget
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Hi Kaz
Happy to help.
If you do have problems, give me a shout - here or via a PM (personal message) and I'll see what I can do.
Gadget
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sunnyg1rl05
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Hiya, I received Walters birth certificate thursday, his father was Thomas Charles as i thought and his mother was Anne Dudley
so one piece of the jigsaw fits
kaz
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warwickshire: blakeman
somerset, taunton: hallet
shropshire, bridgnorth, cleobury mortimer: foxall, poyner,charles
worcestershire: hardwick
Gloucestershire: Smith, Pearse
monmouth:pontypool, meredith,
Caernarvon: humphreys
denbighshire, evans
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Gadget
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Pleased for you Kaz. Now you have to chase up those Dudley ancestors 
Gadget
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