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EddieW
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My grandfather was christened William George White Tebby, born 28 Jun 1884 Slip End Caddington but there was no father on his birth certificate. His mother was Elizabeth Tebby and she married in 1889. His father must have been married as i was told that the White's brought him up in his early years. The correct spelling is Tebbey. Is there any way i could find his father. Eddie W
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Hi Eddy
The only way to get an idea is to see whether the vicar has named a "suspect" in the baptism register or to findout whether a bastardy order was issued by the Overseers of the Poor. It is a little late for the latter - most were earlier in the century.
Have you found him on censuses? Who did his mother marry? I assume you mean that William was looked after by the WHITEs before his mother's marriage?
kind regards, Arranroots 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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UKgirl
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Hello Eddie,
Isn't this a case of a single girl, Miss Tebby, cleverly slipping in the family name of the father "White" as a middle name for their child?
And in this case it sounds as if the father's family "The Whites" acknowledged that their son was the father, by bringing up the child? How very kind of them. It makes such a refreshing story, compared to the usual "runaway" suspect.
I am very impressed.
Humanity is not so bad, after all.
Or have I missed something 
UKgirl
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EddieW
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Thanks Arranroots I will try and find a baptism but i have a feeling they were not church people. I have tried the census but not conclusive, there is a William age 8 with a father George and a William age 8 with a father William in the 1891 census but no William George. Elizabeth married William Walter Smart in 1889 and i have them in the 1901 census but i have trouble with this census puting all the family together and still didn't find a William George age 17 by this time. Regards EddieW
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EddieW
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Hi UKgirl You are right about the kindness but from the little i was told the kindness was on Mrs Whites side as the man was i think married, wether Elizabeth knew this at the time who knows. Regards EddieW
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UKgirl
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Hello again,
It is helpful to explain what you have already found 
For example, have you found the mother in 1881?
Presumably you have her father's name from her marriage certificate?
Do you know anything about the White family?
Is there a White family living in close proximity to the Tebbey family in 1881?
I think that you must go backwards, in order to go forwards. It would be helpful to find the two families before he was born.
UKgirl
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EddieW
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Hi again UKgirl Elizabeth was born 19 Sep 1862, father Charles born c1833, mother Ann Parker but have not found Elizabeth Charles or Ann in the 1881 census on the LDS site and don't have access to the 1871 census (have not posted these on rootschat yet). Don't know anything about the whites. Have two White familys in 1891 census. EddieW
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1891: Bedfordshire, Dunstable, District 2
Walter Smart, aged 20 (?) born Dunstable, boot shoe maker Elizabeth Smart, aged 25 born Leighton Buzzard, dressmaker William James Smart, 1 year old, born Dunstable Sidney Thomas Smart, 2 months old, born Dunstable
124, High Street South
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1881
RG11/ 1630
Bedfordshire, Clifton, District 10
Elizabeth Charles aged 14 working as a servant in a pub, "The Golden Lion" Born in Stotfold, Bedfordshire
Publican: Joseph King wife: Martha King
I don't know anything about Bedfordshire.
Is Stotfold near Leighton Buzzard?
I have to dash now, so I can't try anything else tonight.
Perhaps someone else will have a go. If not, I will try again tomorrow.
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Shouldn't that be Elizabeth TEBBEY, with father Charles?
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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This should be them in 1871
RG10/1561/48/24
Charles TEBBY H Wdr 38 - brewer - Beds Leighton Charles son 13 - do Elizabeth dau 8 - do
Address: Workhouse Lane, Leighton Buzzard
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Eddie In 1901 William G Tebbey (although looks like Telbey) 16 General Straw Worker born Slip End is listed as a boarder with Elizabeth and Walter and children. I haven't been able to find anyone more conclusive in 1891.
Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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In 1891 William with father George is still with his family. Will check the other one for you. Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Here is 1861 - still can't find them in 1881
RG9/1005/74/34
Charles TEBBY H M 28 - ag lab Ann W M 28 - straw plaiter Ann dau 9 - scholar Jane dau 6 - do Charles son 4 - do William PARKER bro in law U 24 - railway lab Thomas PARKER do U 22 - do
All b Leighton Buzzard
Address: Workhouse Lane, Leighton Buzzard
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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William White with father William is also still with his family in 1901. So Your William has to be hiding somewhere else  Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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