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TracyL
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Mercy Marks
« on: Monday 06 March 06 18:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I have tried to track this person via the Warwickshire board, but with no success.  I don't actually know where she originates from, only that she was my great-grandmother.  My grandfather's birth cert. (1905) states Mercy Lawrence (formerly Marks) as mother and Arthur Day Lawrence, Accountant, as father.  The birth was in Erdington, Warks and mother's address was Aylesford Street, Leamington.

I can find no trace of either of these people!  There are various Arthur Lawrence's on the census and a couple of Mercy Marks, but nothing to connect them.

I am asking for help here as I have come across another Mercy Marks from Oldbury, Worcs.  She is too old but did have a daughter called Mary.  Interestingly, mother changes her name between Mercy and Mary depending which census!  Could the daughter have done the same?  She was born in 1880, which would make her the right age.

If I manage to get the Birmingham records office, would there be any information I can look for that may help identify Mercy or Arthur.  Have been looking for months and have made zero progress Huh

Any ideas would be really really appreciated - surely there must be a record of them somewhere?  Just a little break-though is all I need Embarrassed

Thanks

Tracy
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Judd - Warwickshire
DESLONGRAIS  - MAURITIUS/WALES/WARWICKSHIRE
Durand-Deslongrais - Mauritius/France
Neboden - Mauritius/France
Marks - Staffs/Warwicks
Menday, Lynch, French, Wright - Bermondsey/Southwark
Pett, Lowe, Kelly, Woolf, Baker, Winn, Wilkinson - North London
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Re: Mercy Marks
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 March 06 14:48 UTC (UK) »

Have you checked the GRO index for Mercy and Arthur's marriage?  If not, I think that's the next step: it doesn't showup on FreeBMD, but you can search the original images free at http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx.

Do you know whether your grandfather had any siblings, and if so, were they older or younger than him?  That could help with a starting point to look for the marriage.

I've come across Mary/Mercy name changes, but without the marriage, there's no way of knowing which Mercy is yours!

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CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton      
LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton
MAY: Caulfield, Griffin      
SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory      
SOM: Dowding, James, Jones

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TracyL
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Re: Mercy Marks
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 March 06 15:26 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Rambler

I have been to the Records Office in London to look for this and checked five years after 1905 and 10 years before!  However, I did check for Mercy not Mary.  I don't know about sibings, Arthur was adopted - although he was still with his mother for at least six week after his birth (the date she registered him).  He used his real name throughout his adult life.  She could have made u the father's name I suppose, but it is a strange name to invent!

It does help that you have come across Mary/Mercy swaps though.
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Tracy
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Durand-Deslongrais - Mauritius/France
Neboden - Mauritius/France
Marks - Staffs/Warwicks
Menday, Lynch, French, Wright - Bermondsey/Southwark
Pett, Lowe, Kelly, Woolf, Baker, Winn, Wilkinson - North London
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Re: Mercy Marks
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 March 06 09:42 UTC (UK) »

That's a pain - looks as if they possibly didn't marry and Mercy bluffed the registrar.   Roll Eyes

I agree that Arthur Day Lawrence sounds like an odd name to invent, so maybe it'll be possible to find him.  (Not on Free BMD as far as I could see, though...)

I'll have another think and let you know if inspiration strikes!

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts      
CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton      
LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton
MAY: Caulfield, Griffin      
SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory      
SOM: Dowding, James, Jones

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TracyL
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Re: Mercy Marks
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 March 06 10:05 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Rambler

I don't really understand why she would lie on his birth certificate if she knew she was giving him up - why would it have mattered to her what was on his birth certificate?  Nevertheless, even if Arthur Day Lawrence was an invention Mercy must have existed - now all I have to do is find her!!

I'll let you know if I find a trail.

Regards
Tracy
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DESLONGRAIS  - MAURITIUS/WALES/WARWICKSHIRE
Durand-Deslongrais - Mauritius/France
Neboden - Mauritius/France
Marks - Staffs/Warwicks
Menday, Lynch, French, Wright - Bermondsey/Southwark
Pett, Lowe, Kelly, Woolf, Baker, Winn, Wilkinson - North London
Tiplady - Bedfordshire
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Re: Mercy Marks
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 March 06 10:14 UTC (UK) »

there is a mercy marks working as a barmaid in kennilworth warwickshire aged 21yrs in 1901.place of birth down as walsall.can give you rest of household details if you want them?
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Re: Mercy Marks
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 March 06 14:12 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alli
Have found her and have tried to find a link - no luck.  She was one of 13 children but, although I have found birth records for most of her siblings, I have not been able to find anything for her.  I agree that she looks a likely suspect, but just can't get any evidence to support it.  There is also a Mercy Marks who was born in Whilton, Northants.  She married someone (not a Lawrence) in 1909 in Daventry, but if the certificate is part fiction in that my Mercy wasn't really married then I suppose it could be her.

The Mercy from Oldbury would have been too old (probably) but her daughter, Mary (if she used the Mary/Mercy swap) would be the right age.  Again, it is just finding some evidence.  I have posted a query on the Warwickshire board asking if it is possible to find baptism records for my grandfather - just in case she did this before giving him up, but it doesn't look as though this is possible without more information.

Regards
Tracy
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Judd - Warwickshire
DESLONGRAIS  - MAURITIUS/WALES/WARWICKSHIRE
Durand-Deslongrais - Mauritius/France
Neboden - Mauritius/France
Marks - Staffs/Warwicks
Menday, Lynch, French, Wright - Bermondsey/Southwark
Pett, Lowe, Kelly, Woolf, Baker, Winn, Wilkinson - North London
Tiplady - Bedfordshire
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