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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1830 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 21:56 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Jean.  If it is the same Elizabeth Hughes she would have been quite old to marry in 1782, 30 years after having her illegitimate child Mary, but I suppose anything is possible.

Thank you also for finding the marriage between John Woodward and Elizabeth Parson in 1759.  Their first child was actually born in 1760, not 1761 as I said previously.  I don't suppose we'll ever know if it is my 4 x g.grandfather's first marriage, but it seems possible that he would have married at age 25 the first time and then found himself a widow with 4 children and re-married Mary Hughes my 4 x g.grandmother.

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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1831 on: Thursday 09 July 09 07:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris
Very grateful for any help - I have found John Dudley on the 1841 Census in Audlem, Nantwich, Cheshire (parish of Dodcott Cum Wilkesley), b c1779.  His son Thomas and daughter Elizabeth are with him.  John is a widower.  His son, John, moved to London, married and brought up his family there - he was born c1813 so I am looking for his father John's marriage probably pre1813 but I don't know if there were any other children born earlier.
Many thanks
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1832 on: Thursday 09 July 09 19:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris
Very grateful for any help - I have found John Dudley on the 1841 Census in Audlem, Nantwich, Cheshire (parish of Dodcott Cum Wilkesley), b c1779.  His son Thomas and daughter Elizabeth are with him.  John is a widower.  His son, John, moved to London, married and brought up his family there - he was born c1813 so I am looking for his father John's marriage probably pre1813 but I don't know if there were any other children born earlier.
Many thanks
Pearly22
 

Hi Pearly22,

I think that you may find the baptisms of the children at Audlem to John & Martha DUDLEY are here:

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

It also has a possible marriage:

John DUDLEY, bachelor of Audlem m Martha HIGGINS, Sp of Audlem 31 Dec 1804 at Audlem by Banns - witnesses John DUDLEY and William HIGGINS

If you think this is the right family you may be able to find a considerable amount of information as there are a number of Dudley events at Audlem.

The burial of Martha DUDLEY aged 55 of Dodcott cum Wilkesley 2 Jan 1836 is also there, + the burial of John DUDLEY of Dodcott aged 79 4 Sep 1859

Hope this helps,

Jean
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DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1833 on: Thursday 09 July 09 21:38 UTC (UK) »

Dear Jean

Very many thanks for such a prompt and helpful reply.  This has confirmed some facts and given me much more information to work with.

Kind regards

Pearly22 Cheesy
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1834 on: Sunday 12 July 09 06:53 UTC (UK) »

May I ask for a look up at Lymm please

Looking for information of any Massey marriages at Lymn, Have a James Massey born 1812 to parents married at Lymm

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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1835 on: Sunday 12 July 09 07:27 UTC (UK) »

May I ask for a look up at Lymm please

Looking for information of any Massey marriages at Lymn, Have a James Massey born 1812 to parents married at Lymm

Thank you

A transcription of the Lymm parish register is available here:

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

At least if the event you are searching for isn't there you will be able to eliminate Lymm as the parish.

Hope this helps,

Jean
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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1836 on: Friday 17 July 09 20:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris.  I am a new user of this forum so am not sure if you can help....

I wonder if you would be kind enough to check the records for a marriage in Stockport on May 20 1832 between Anthony Ollerenshaw and Ann Ogden.  Can you confirm where the marriage took place and whether there is any other information, e.g. parents' names?

Many thanks,
Susan
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1837 on: Friday 17 July 09 20:56 UTC (UK) »

Thank you Jean.

There are a couple of possibles. I have looked through Rostherne, and  Knutsford, now Lymm,  but i suppose without the mothers name you can never be sure with such a common name.
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1838 on: Saturday 18 July 09 07:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris.  I am a new user of this forum so am not sure if you can help....

I wonder if you would be kind enough to check the records for a marriage in Stockport on May 20 1832 between Anthony Ollerenshaw and Ann Ogden.  Can you confirm where the marriage took place and whether there is any other information, e.g. parents' names?

Many thanks,
Susan
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Hi Susan and a warm welcome to the site.

Anthony OLERENSHAW of Hyde m Ann OGDEN of Wer. 20 May 1832 at Stockport by licence.

You may get more useful details (witnesses) if you apply to Cheshire records office for a copy of the marriage register entry (charges on the website)

http://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/leisure_and_culture/record_office/online_shop.aspx

The marriage would have been at Stockport St Mary which was the parish church.  I'm not sure what the [Wer] would stand for on Ann's place of residence, possibly Werneth.

You may also be able to get information from the marriage licence, more information here:

http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/Infobase/Begin-Registers.htm

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CHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett
DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor)
HRT: Gurney
HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St)
LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale)
NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering)
YKS: Scott(Clapham)
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1839 on: Sunday 19 July 09 14:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Juno
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1840 on: Sunday 19 July 09 14:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi Juno
Just looking thru Cheshire info.     Joseph Massey - was he the son of Hamnet and Sara from Rostherne.
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1841 on: Sunday 19 July 09 14:48 UTC (UK) »

Ah....... Yes there is a Joseph  son of Hamlet & Sara, born 1784, he died in Hulme and was a tailor there, some details on the registers for Christ Church Hulme. of his death and other childen.

Then there is a Joseph son of George &Suzannah Peak born 1767 -1832, not married on my list so no children  --but who knows? I am becoming quite bewildered by the comings and goings and the names---oh for a Clint & or Elvis.

everyone in this family must have a cousin and an aunt or uncle of the same name.
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1842 on: Sunday 19 July 09 14:59 UTC (UK) »

Obviously you know the family......
I go along the line of Esther, 1798 daughter of Hamnet and Mary.

Very interesting looking at the three generations of Massey - all similar names.   Even Esther's daughter is Esther!!!!
     
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Prestatyn area - Roberts/Edwards
Nottingham - Chilton
Bristol - Chilton
Cheshire - Massey/Cartledge

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Chester? Cartledge/Massey
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1843 on: Sunday 19 July 09 18:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi ,

I dont think I have her listed. Is she the daughter of Hamlet & Mary peers/Parr?

I am going over  them all again becuse I attributed my line to Jospeh Massey of Hulme whose son James was born in 1811, I have only discovered after all these years --10-12, that that James died in hulme aged 6 years old, and was butied there.
Although they continued to have later children baptised at Rostherne.
I suppose the ones that died had to be buried quickly. Where as they could have a little trip back to Rosthenre for a baptismal party!.

So I am left looking for a James Massey born c 1812, born in the area, alive after the 1851 census,when he seems to have dissappeared. and of course I dont know who his father is. The marriage certificate dosnt show the fathers names.,

There are a few James Massey's born c1810, but its just making the connection---correctly this time.
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« Reply #1844 on: Sunday 19 July 09 18:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris -

I wonder if you might have a marriage record for a William Ellams (born c. 1768 died 1844) and Mary ? (born around 1785).  The marriage likely took place in Mary's birthplace of Alvanley, but may have been at Frodsham (they lived and raised their children in Helsby).  The marriage probably took place around 1807, but may have been a year or two earlier.  (Of course, they may not have married officially at all.)  William was a small farmer-agricultural labourer.

Thanks a lot!  Best regards, Anne. Grin
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