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Re: Cheshire Parish Records
« Reply #75 on: Friday 16 July 04 15:31 BST (UK) »

Peter,

Can you tell me which church would be the local one to Sale in 1800. It seems most of them did not exist then and I am getting very confused between the various old parishes.

I have found a marriage on the IGI index that mentions St Mary's Manchester. Would this be the same as St Mary's Bowden?

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    St. Mary's Manchester was not associated with St. Mary's Bowden.
If your looking for Sale prior to 1840 ish it was a township in the parish of "Ashton upon Mersey, St. Martin (C of E), Church Lane. An ancient parish, comprising most of the township of Ashton upon Mersey, and the whole of Sale township. Registers of baptisms 1636-1960, marriages 1636-1947 and burials 1636-1939 are at the CRO. Bishop's transcripts survive from 1605. Memorial inscriptions have been published by the FHS of Cheshire."
The above is a quote from Genuki.
I believe a small section of A-u-M was in the parish of Bowden but if its Sale your after then I would plump for St Martins.

good luck and don't forget where we are if you need any further help.

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Re: Cheshire Parish Records
« Reply #76 on: Saturday 17 July 04 17:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Peter,

Once again many thanks for your help.
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records
« Reply #77 on: Tuesday 20 July 04 16:35 BST (UK) »

Hello Chris,

Wonder if your Cheshire disk might have details of the birth of a William Lamb circa 1805.  He was born somewhere called Tabley, Cheshire (which I think is near Knutsford).

If it has marriages, I'd be also be interested to know the surname of the lady called Jane that he married sometime between 1825-29.

Best wishes,

Gordon.
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« Reply #78 on: Tuesday 20 July 04 17:54 BST (UK) »

Hi Gordon
              Sorry the index is marriages only, and there is no record of a marriage for William Lamb, tried various spellings.
             Do you have early census records ? If not I may be able to help if they were in Cheshire.

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Re: Cheshire Parish Records
« Reply #79 on: Tuesday 20 July 04 20:01 BST (UK) »

Hello Peter,

Very much appreciate the offer. Only info I have is from '71 census of Barton upon Irwell, Salford which shows William 66, a gardener, born Tabley Cheshire and wife Jane 73 born Chesterfield Derbyshire.  He probably never returned to Cheshire.

But thank you for your help,

Gordon.
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records
« Reply #80 on: Wednesday 21 July 04 16:25 BST (UK) »

Hello Chris,

I wanted to ask if you could look up the following Birth for me.

Phoebe Lowndes born about 1776 believed to be in INCE, Cheshire.

Thank you for your time.

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« Reply #81 on: Wednesday 21 July 04 16:55 BST (UK) »

Hi Kalimonster
  Sorry the index I have is marriages only, there is a ref on the IGI but suspect you have seen it. I do not know of an on line ref for this parishes records
 It looks like a trip to the Cheshire records office is called for

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« Reply #82 on: Wednesday 21 July 04 17:41 BST (UK) »

Hello Peter,

Very much appreciate the offer. Only info I have is from '71 census of Barton upon Irwell, Salford which shows William 66, a gardener, born Tabley Cheshire and wife Jane 73 born Chesterfield Derbyshire.  He probably never returned to Cheshire.

But thank you for your help,

Gordon.

Hi Gordon
              I have searched the 1841 and 1851 census's of Cheshire without finding William. It seems he must have left Cheshire earlier.

sorry

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« Reply #83 on: Thursday 22 July 04 11:39 BST (UK) »

Once again many thanks, Peter.  Looks like I'll have to direct my searches towards the Salford area now.

Kind regards,

Gordon
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Re: Cheshire Parish Records
« Reply #84 on: Saturday 24 July 04 15:59 BST (UK) »

Hi Chris, I am new to this forum so I hope that I am using the correct format to ask a question.  I am researching lots of branches of my family tree but at present am concentrating on the "Daniel" branch. I have got back to the early 1800's but have come unstuck with a lack of details on certain documents.  Specifically I am trying to find out who were the parents of Isaiah Daniel of Norbury Hazel Grove, Stockport and where did they come from.  From library records I know he married Ann Williamson at St Mary's church, Cheadle on 6th November 1821.  But that is all it tells me.  I do not know where to look for any other details about him.  I know they were methodists of Welsh extraction.  The family were coalminers.  Can you offer any advise?  Thanks Evelyn   
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« Reply #85 on: Saturday 24 July 04 18:29 BST (UK) »

Hi Evelyn
              Welcome to rootschat, from what I can see you have managed to do very well up now, before I go over ground that you may have allready reseached can you tell me if you know that he was born Hazel Grove or elswhere , from early census records perhaps. What records have you searched at the Cheshire records office, if he was baptised at the
Hazel Grove (Bullock Smithy), Methodist Chapel (Wesleyan). Founded 1788. The registers 1794-1837 are at the CRO.
Sorry I have no info I can give you at the moment. please get back to us.

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« Reply #86 on: Monday 09 August 04 09:48 BST (UK) »

Hi Chris,

thanks for the kind offer.

I'm looking for an elusive ancestor named Arthur GIBBON. Arthur was born (according to his marriage cert and the 1891/1901 censuses) in about 1854.

The 1901 census says he was born in Macclesfield and on one of his marriage certs he gives his father's name as Matthew GIBBON.

There is no record of Arthur's birth in the national BMD indexes (and to complicate matters, the 1891 census says he was born in Stoke, Staffordshire!)

Anything you could dig up from the Cheshire Parish Records would be fantastic and very much appreciated.

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« Reply #87 on: Monday 09 August 04 10:58 BST (UK) »

Hi Andy

I will see what I can find for you, although parish records index will not show any more than the national registration index. And with out knowing the parish he was born in its quite difficult
Can you give all the details from the 1891 census including wife and children. Do you have him on the 1881
           Can you give me a couple more facts from marriage cert

where and when and to who
what did his father do for a living

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« Reply #88 on: Monday 09 August 04 13:34 BST (UK) »

Peter,

Thanks for your kind offer.

There is no record of Arthur Gibbon on the 1881 Census, and with not appearing in the national birth indexes either, he was very elusive for a while.

By the time of the 1891 Census he was living at 97 Olivia St, Bootle, Lancashire. The entry (as given to me) is:

Arthur Gibbon age 37 Tram car driver b. Staffordshire looks like Stoke
Elizabeth wife age 50 b. Salop Shrewsbury
Violet Parry, niece age 10 b Salop Westbury?
Sarah Parry. niece age 28? cook domestic, b. Salop Shrewsbury
William Jackson boarder age 43 ? driver b. Cumberland (can't make out the town.)

In 1901 Arthur and Elizabeth were resident at 45 Linacre Road, Bootle and had a son Arthur William Edward, who was born in 1892. (on this census record Arthur is listed as being 47 and born in Macclesfield, Cheshire and Elizabeth listed as being 36 and born in Shropshire).

The marriage was between Arthur Gibbon and Elizabeth Parry (I believe this to be the Elizabeth who appears on the census records – Elizabeth Gibbon nee Parry is listed as Arthur William’s mother on his birth cert). It took place in 1907, at West Derby Register Office (I’m afraid I don’t have access to all of my records at the moment, so can’t be more precise).

On the marriage cert, Arthur said that his father was a silk throwster.

Thanks again for anything you can find.

Regards

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« Reply #89 on: Monday 09 August 04 17:47 BST (UK) »

Hi Andy
           I think you need a medium to find Arthur prior to 1891!
I have searched all the census's in Macclesfield and there is no Arthur. There is in the 1851 Macclesfield a

Matthew Gibbon unwed farmer 39 HO 107 2159 F 60  ??

Of course its possible that his mother was unwed at the time of birth and Arthur was registered under another name, and only took the Gibbon name at some later date. I dont have acsess to Staffordshire records otherwise I would search the Stoke census.
The age of 50 for Elizabeth in 1891 does not ring true, I would be more inclined to lean towards the 26 and spend some time searching for her in the 1881. Can her age be confirmed approx from the marriage certificate ?
Arthur is definately not on any Cheshire census.

sorry I can't be any more help.

peterbennett

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