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Marks family - Whilton
« on: Wednesday 08 March 06 17:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Can anyone find a marriage record between a Frederick Marks and Emily.  Frederick was born about 1847 in Whilton, Northants and Emily about the same in Flore (?), Northants.  They must then have moved to Yorkshire as their first three children were born Sheffield/Shipton, the first being in 1872.

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Re: Marks family - Whilton
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 March 06 18:14 GMT (UK) »

Just to narrow down the time frame: he's still at home in Whilton and unmarried in 1871.

According to 1881, their first child Florence E was born in Northampton as well.

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Re: Marks family - Whilton
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 March 06 18:26 GMT (UK) »

Hi again Tanja

You're right!  Just checked the original again and I have noted Florence's birthplace down incorrectly - oops!

As he was single and at home in 1871 and married with a nine year old in 1881, they obviously got together quite quickly after the '71 census (not necessarily married I suppose).  Still can't find any record in any of the obvious places.  Smiley

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Re: Marks family - Whilton
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 March 06 17:56 GMT (UK) »

Not too sure about this but I thought I'd throw it in:
Marriages Sep 1874
Daventry registration district
Emily Bottrill         
Frederic Charles Marks   
3b 173   

With:
1861
RG9/942 45 9
Floore, Northamptonshire
Pricketts Lane

William Botterill, head, 57, Machinist, b. Floore
Sarah, wife, 47, b. Stowe
George, son, unm, 26, Machinist, b. Floore
Emily, dau, 14, Lace maker, b. do.
Mercy, dau, 11, scholar, b. do.
William C, son, 3, b. do.

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1871
RG10/1490 71 43
Flore, Northamptonshire
Bricketts lane

Sarah Bottrill, head, wid, 57, Formerly lacemaker, b. Stowe
Emily Pair, dau, mar, 24, formerly domestic servant, b. Floore
William Bottrill, son, 13, machinist lab, b. Floore

She should have married under the name Pair, I suppose  Undecided

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Re: Marks family - Whilton
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 March 06 18:42 GMT (UK) »

Tanja - this is fantastic!  Emily's daughter, Mercy, is fast becoming number one suspect in my search for the parents name on my grandfather's birth cert. (see warwickshire board under 'Mercy Marks' and 'Help needed Marks/Lawrence').  I posted there as another Mercy in that area that was on my list.

Basically I had three suspects; this one, one in Kenilworth and a vague one in Worcester.

This one is Mercy Beatrice Annie Marks who married in 1909 in Daventry - which meant I had discounted her once as she had my grandfather in 1905.  However, as I now suspect that she may not have been married at all I am taking another look.  If the name of the father on the birth cert. (Arthur Day Lawrence) was real, she may have taken a leaf out of her mother's book when she remarried and simply used her maiden name?

I am also sure that I have come across a Lawrence family from Floore - but will have to look at all my bits of paper to check (or reinvestigate!).

I have just this moment managed to locate Mercy on the 1901 Census.  I had been able to find the rest of her family still in Whilton (under Wellingborough), but no sign of her.  Just found her a few streets away working as a servant but using the name Annie Marks!  I will now pick up on this and re-check the person she married etc. Hope this all makes sense!

I guess we can work on the basis that Emily's oldest child, Florence, was from her first husband?

This has given me a huge boost - thanks
Tracy

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Re: Marks family - Whilton
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 March 06 18:55 GMT (UK) »

I guess we can work on the basis that Emily's oldest child, Florence, was from her first husband?

I wish I had found a matching birth  Undecided

Using only the partial index, the only Florence E's or E Florence's registered in Daventry ca. 1872 had yet other surnames. I guess it ould be useful to check the complete indexes under both names...

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Re: Marks family - Whilton
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 March 06 19:09 GMT (UK) »

I suppose you have seen this by now:
Marriage Dec 1870 Daventry
Emily Bottrill - John Pair

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Re: Marks family - Whilton
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 March 06 19:15 GMT (UK) »

The IGI has a christening for Florence Edith Pair in Floore, parents John and Emily, 3 Sep 1871!!
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Re: Marks family - Whilton
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 March 06 19:19 GMT (UK) »

Ha!  You beat me!  I was just posting to say I hadn't seen the marriage, but had found the christening when your post came through.

Good when it starts to fit though Cheesy
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Re: Marks family - Whilton
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 24 April 08 21:40 BST (UK) »

Tracy - I'm new to this board so only just seeing things from 2006. I'm working on Marks of Whilton being married to on ein 1971 and have her tree back to William Marks b 1740 - but I know not where - suspect Brington or Buckby; not on Whilton parish records. then via Blencowes to 1660.
Is your tree visible anywhere?  Do you have Marks before 1740?

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Re: Marks family - Whilton
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 03 July 08 15:32 BST (UK) »

Hi there, i too are new to the board!!  ...V interested in finding out how the Marks family of Whilton is linked to the Marks family of Milton - i have found a distant cousin (Peter Marks) recently as a result of the Milton Malsor website:  www.miltonmalsorhistory.org.uk/      I haven't as yet met Peter but i know that he has traced the Marks family back to the 1600's.    Fyi Peter's email address is Marksflyby@aol.com.   
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