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Valda
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From the information you give it doesn't actually say Jane Maunder was living in the same house. The 1871 census gives Jane Maunder 43 the wife of Thomas a shoemaker in Pydar Street. Though like most women on censuses there is no occupation for Jane she may very well have supplemented the family's income by nursing within the local community. She has no children present in the family home so would be available to stay overnight nursing the dying and perhaps those in childbirth. Like many such women she also performed the service of registering the death. The registrar would likely know her and know she had experience of death and illness and could describe symptoms. The registrar would not therefore consider that there was anything suspicious in the cause of death. By 1875 a doctor legally had to certify the death and any informant had to give their relationship to the deceased.
'Someone present at the death could simply have been the person who made a living by sitting with the dying and laying them out after death, or a close friend or neighbour and is not necessarily a relative.'
http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/deaths.htm#COL7
'Hematemesis: The medical term for bloody vomitus.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hematemesis
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Valda
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deb usa
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Thanks Valda 
I was jumping to conclusions again .... 
also thanks for the medical term .... poor George !
back later
deb
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Ah, but Deb, it has solved another part of the puzzle... namely what happened to the eldest daughter Ann! 
If you remember, she was last seen in the 1871 census married to Francis BASSETT. She had had a son with him before their marriage in 1870 (William Francis) who had died by this census.
Then she seemed to have vanished. Now, thanks to her being the informant of her mother's death I found her in London in 1881 living with Bennett Carveth and a 3 year old daughter, Ellen. In 1891 they were back in Truro.
In 1901 he is down as Benjamin Carveth with a new wife, Susan. Ellen is still living with them, in Truro. There is a possible death of Ann CARVOLTH in Redruth RD, Jun 1897 aged 54, but I'm not sure Ann and Susan aren't possibly the same person!! Ann's age goes off in 1891 but she is recorded as a fishmonger, as is Susan in 1901, who's age tallies with Ann in 1881!!
FreeBMD isn't throwing up a marriage either, but taking her past record I'm not too surprised! The father of her 2 elder daughters, Emma & Annie, is reputed to be Joseph Burton.
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Hiya Julia
So glad something came of ordering the certs ..woohooo ...when I first got them I was wondering about the elder daughter who was the informant ...I know you had traced her marriage but I could not recall that surname at all ...I will look at the census tomorrow ... Late here ,had a busy day and a busy day tomorrow ,,,soon kids will be back at school and I can PLAY 
keep us informed ....
later deb xxx
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deb usa
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Hi Everyone
Okay ... we have in 1871:
Francis Bassett head mar 28 butcher b Helstone Ann wife mar 28 b Truro Annie dau 7
In 1881: we have Ann now married to Bennett Carveth living in St Pancras, with daughter Ellen
I was trying to find the death of Francis Bassett between 1871 and 1881... to no avail, then I found this in 1881:
Francis Bassett UNM lodger, BUTCHER 36 b Helstone living in Calenick Street, Kenwyn,Truro
as you said , Julia , there doesn't seem to be a marriage for Ann Bassett and Bennett Carveth..... also why did he , Bennett, change his name to Benjamin? That is if we have the correct people ...... Ohhhh nooooo , not another mystery 
I need to reread this all over again 
deb
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hiya OOPS  Thanks so much for that .... It is very late here ... 2am actually ...will get back to you soon ,,,,, thanks sooo much for taking an interest
deb 
ps: love the pics .,,,,,, that is me boss eyed and pulling my hair out ! LOL
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Hello,
I'm interested in the DENNIS/CARNENTON families mentioned here from the DENNIS side of things. My email is:
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and my genealogical website is at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ricksmith61/smith.html
Please look under DENNIS Kenwyn and Truro areas.
Kind regards Rickk
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