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wildgoose
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I am tring to trackdown a Thomas MARTIN & family on the 1851 Census. In both 1841 & 1861 he is in Forfar but despite my best efforts on Scotland's People I,m unable to track him down. The information below may help.
Also researching the NICOLL, KERNAGHAN, STEEDMAN, FENTON, FERRIER families of Angus.
Dave 
Dwelling: Tornshaven
Census Place: Fofar, ANS
MARTIN Thomas M 25 Hand Loom Weaver Angus
MARTIN Janet Fenton F 20 Hand Loom Weaver Angus
MARTIN Mary F 7 Angus
MARTIN William M 3 Angus
MARTIN Ann F 1 Angus
1861 Census recs.
Dwelling: 3 Lappiedub.
Census Place: Forfar, ANS.
Thomas MARTIN, head, marr., 46, linen weaver, ANS, Eassie.
Janet Fenton MARTIN, wife, marr., 45, ANS, Forfar.
Mary, daur., unm., 26, linen weaver, ANS, Forfar.
Ann, daur., unm., 20, linen weaver, ANS, Forfar.
Margaret, daur., unm., 17, linen weaver, ANS, Forfar.
James, son, 13, linen weaver, ANS, Forfar.
David, son, 8, scholar, ANS, Forfar.
Peter, son, 5, scholar, ANS, Forfar.
John PETER, boarder, grandson, 3, ANS, Forfar.
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Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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stjoseph
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I am looking for a Bridget Martin she was my Gran's mother Margaret Martin born 1898 Dundee. Bridget was single so do not know who the father was. Bridget disappears after 1901 census.
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wildgoose
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Finally found Thomas under the name MARTAIN!
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All information taken from my personal database compiled from original sources - Crown Copyright acknowledge as stated.
Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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Hi,
I have Ferriers in Angus, oldest from Muirside of Kinnell, but also Inverkeillor, Kirkden & Froickheim. Common names are William, Alexander, Elisabeth, Margaret & Isabel(la).
Generations of dykers/stonemasons...
Lots on my website when it's up and running again?
Think there may be a link? 
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Fleming: Campsie, Glasgow, E Kilbride, Cumbria, Canada/USA, Oz (NSW)
Cant: Kilmichael, Inverness, Resoles, Moray
Stewart: Dingwall, Strathpeffer
Rankin(e): Argyll, Glasgow
Ferrier: Kinnell, Red Castle, Inverkeillor, Glasgow, Greenock
Morrell: Dundee, Oban, Perth, Rothesay
Harris: Glasgow, Dunoon
Hart: Govan
McDonnell/McDonald: Inverness, Paisley, Glasgow, Bristol
(Mc)Niven: Islay, Glasgow
MacDonald: N Uist, Glasgow
MacCorquodale: N Uist
Dear: St Cyrus
Gibb: St Vigeans
Bell: Forfarshire
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wildgoose
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many thanks. I'm still no further forward in finding Euphemia Steedman MARTIN since I posted my last message in '06 
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Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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Lass
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Hi wildgoose
Just browsing through and the name Fenton caught my eye.
I have a Jane Fenton b. 1858 in my line - I'm sorry I don't have much more info right this minute as I'm at work, but if you'd like more please do let me know. She married William Balharry and I believe had 12 children (this is from memory, again I have all the records at home), some of whom were given Fenton as a middle name.
I'd be glad to give you any info you want.
Lass x
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wildgoose
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I have information on the FENTONs see below...unfortunately 5 years on I still can't find Euphemia Steedman MARTIN or husband James on any of the earlier Census records(parents of Thomas) even though I have her death certificate dated 1875 
Name: James FENTON
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Occupation: Post runner
Marriage: 2 10 1802 Forfar
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Spouse: Janet MITCHELL
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Children:
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1 F: Ann FENTON
Birth: 11 9 1803 Forfar
Christen: 22 9 1803 Forfar
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2 M: Thomas FENTON
Birth: 26 4 1805 Forfar
Christen: 3 5 1805 Forfar
Death: 18 12 1888 34 Manor St., Forfar.1
Occupation: Linen Hand Loom Weaver
Spouse: Ann CALDER
Marriage: 30 7 1826 Forfar.
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3 F: Margaret FENTON
Birth: 6 7 1807 Forfar
Christen: 23 7 1807 Forfar.
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4 M: James FENTON (Twin)
Birth: 19 10 1810 Forfar
Christen: 1 11 1810 Forfar
Occupation: Printer.
Spouse: Amelia
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5 F: Agnes FENTON (Twin)
Birth: 19 10 1810 Forfar
Christen: 1 11 1810 Forfar
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6 F: Janet FENTON
Birth: 31 1 1815 Forfar
Christen: 6 2 1815 Forfar.
Death: 3 2 1878 3 Lappiedub, Forfar.2
Spouse: Thomas MARTIN
Marriage: 20 5 1836 Forfarshire3
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7 F: Agnes FENTON
Birth: 12 5 1819 Forfar
Christen: 7 6 1819 Forfar.
Notes for Thomas (Child 2)
1841 Census recs.
Dwelling: Hill St.
Census Place: Forfar, ANS.
FENTON Thomas M 35 Linen Hand Loom Weaver Forfarshire
CALDER Ann F 35 Forfarshire
FENTON Ann F 4 Forfarshire
FENTON Agnes F 2 Forfarshire
FENTON Mary F 5m Forfarshire.
1851 Census recs.
Dwelling: Manor St.
Census Place: Forfar, ANS.
Thomas FENTON, head, marr., 46, hand loom weaver, linen, ANS, Forfar.
Ann Calder FENTON, wife, marr., 48, yarn winder, ANS, Aberlemno.
Mary, daur., 10, yarn winder, ANS, Forfar.
David, son, 7, scholar, ANS, Forfar.
Susan, daur., 5, ANS, Forfar.
Agnes, daur., 12, yarn winder, ANS, Forfar.
1861 Census recs.
Dwelling: 4 Manor St.
Census Place: Forfar, ANS.
Thomas FENTON, head, marr., 56, gardener, ANS, Forfar.
Ann Calder FENTON, wife, marr., 58, ANS, Forfar.
Mary, daur., unm., 20, linen hand loom weaver, ANS, Forfar.
Susan, daur., 15, linen hand loom weaver, ANS, Forfar.
1881 Census: 34 Manor Street, Forfar, Forfar, Scotland, Thomas FENTON W 76 M Forfar, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Father In Law Robert KEAY Occ: Retired Gardener.
Notes for James (Child 4)
1881 Census recs.
Dwelling 28 Studley Road
Census Place Lambeth, Surrey, England
James FENTON Head M Male 72 Forfar, Scotland Printer Retired
Amelia FENTON Wife M Female 58 Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Notes for Janet (Child 6)
1841 Census: Tornshaven, Forfar, ANS, Janet Fenton MARTIN F 20 Hand Loom Weaver Forfarshire
1851 Census: South Street, Forfar, ANS, Janet Fenton MARTAIN, wife, marr., 34, ANS, Forfar.
1861 Census: 3 Lappiedub, Census Place: Forfar, ANS, Janet Fenton MARTIN, wife, marr., 45, ANS, Forfar.
1871 Census: 3 Lappiedub, Forfar, ANS, Janet Fenton MARTIN, wife, marr., 56, ANS, Forfar.
Sources
1. Death cert. No.259
Thomas FENTON, general labourer, widr. Ann CALDER
d.1888, Dec 18th, 34 Manor St., Forfar, ANS, age 82.
f.James FENTON, carrier, decd.
m.Janet FENTON, ms MITCHELL, decd.
cod.senile decay.
inf.Robert KEAY, son in law, occupier.
reg.1888, Dec 18th, Forfar, ANS.
2. Death cert. No.23
Janet MARTIN, marr. Thomas MARTIN, handloom linen weaver.
d.1878, Feb 3rd, 3 Lappiedub, Forfar, ANS, age 61.
f.James FENTON, decd.
m.Janet FENTON, ms MITCHELL, decd.
cod.heart disease.
inf.James MARTIN, son, 5 Canmore St. Forfar.
reg.1878, Jan 4th, Forfar, ANS
3. OPR Proclamation of Banns & Marriages
1836, May 20th, Angus, ANS, Thomas MARTIN weaver & Janet FENTON both residing in the Parish were proclaimed in order to marriage, and were afterwards married.
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Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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Lass
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Hi again, my Jane seems to be in addition to yours, so here are the details I have for sake of completeness - it's not much, but it's free 
Jane Fenton
born c. 1836 Tannadice, Forfar
died 30th June 1900, Tannadice, Forfar
married William Balharry in Cortachy & Clova, Forfar on 17th December 1858
Marriage certificate states Jane's parents as Peter Fenton, labourer and Elizabeth Fenton nee Gale
William and Jane had the following children:
Peter Fenton Balharry
born 1857
Julia Balharry
born 1859
died 1884
James Balharry
born 1861
Mary Fenton Balharry
born 1863
William Balharry
born 1863
died 1917
Jane Balharry
born 1865
Elizabeth Fenton Balharry
born 1868
died 1917
John Balharry (my great grandfather)
born 1870
died 1947
George Kerr Balharry
born 1871
Robert Turner Balharry
born 1874
died 1876
Thomas Wylie Balharry
born 1874
died 1904
Richard Balharry
born 1880
died 1933
I don't know about anyone else, but as a mother, I can sympathise with these women and I don't know how on earth they coped having so many children!!
I have them on the 1871 and 1881 census, at Ingliston Smithy, Kinnettles, Angus - both William and Jane are recorded as Blacksmiths. In the 1891 census, William is recorded as a Spirit Dealer and the family is back living in Forfar proper.
Anyhow, I'm sure that's more than enough and maybe not of particular interest to you, but I hope it helps you expand your Fentons!
Lass x
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Lass
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While I'm on the subject, I also have a Ferrier in my line!!
Ann Ferrier
born c.1813
Daughter of John Ferrier and Margaret Anderson
married John Balharrie in Kinettles, Forfarshire 23rd November 1834
John Balharrie (my great, great, great grandfather) and Ann Ferrier were the parents of William Balharry (my great, great grandfather) who married Jane Fenton as per my previous post!!
If you want more info on the other kids of John Balharrie and Ann Ferrier let me know, I don't want to throw a ton of info at you that you don't want!
Lass x
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wildgoose
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many thanks...I did eventually find my Thomas MARTIN on the 1851
1851 Census recs.
Dwelling: South Street.
Census Place: Forfar, ANS
Thomas MARTAIN, head, marr., 36, hand loom weaver (linen), ANS, Eassie.
Janet Fenton MARTAIN, wife, marr., 34, ANS, Forfar.
Mary MARTAIN, daur., unm., 17, hand loom weaver (linen), ANS, Forfar.
William MARTAIN, son, 13, hand loom weaver (linen), ANS, Forfar.
Ann MARTIAN, daur., 11, scholar, ANS, Forfar.
Agnes MARTAIN, daur., 7, scholar, ANS, Forfar.
Margaret MARTAIN, daur., 5, scholar, ANS, Forfar.
James MARTAIN, son, 3, ANS, Forfar.
John MARTAIN, son, 7 mths., ANS, Forfar.
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Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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Hi i have Thomas Martin in my family tree. He married Janet fenton. His mother was EUPHEMIA sTEEDSMAN and father James martin. I f you think there is a connection get in touch
Tracey Cuthbert
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I will send you a message. Thomas MARTIN was my wife's great grand father x 3.
Name: Thomas MARTIN
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Birth: 1815 Eassie, Forfar
Death: 22 7 1883 125 Princes St., St. Andrew, Dundee1
Occupation: Handloom Weaver
Religion: Church of Scotland
Father: James MARTIN
Mother: Euphemia STEEDMAN (1790-1875)
Other Spouses: Janet Reid BUTTER
Marriage: 20 5 1836 Forfarshire2
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Spouse: Janet FENTON
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Birth: 31 1 1815 Forfar
Christen: 6 2 1815 Forfar.
Death: 3 2 1878 3 Lappiedub, Forfar.3
Father: James FENTON
Mother: Janet MITCHELL
Children:
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1 F: Mary MARTIN (Illegitimate)
Birth: 1834 Forfar
Death: 30 12 1902 3 Broadcroft, Forfar4
Occupation: Handloom Weaver
Religion: Church of Scotland
Spouse: David NICOLL
Marriage: 25 8 1879 2 Arbroath, Forfar Rd., Forfar5
Spouse: William ROBERTS
Spouse: John PETER
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2 M: William MARTIN
Birth: 1838 Forfar
Death: 18 11 1897 132 East High St., Forfar6
Occupation: Joiner journeyman.
Religion: Church of Scotland.
Spouse: Jean RAMSAY
Marriage: 4 8 1859 55 West High St., Forfar7
Spouse: Mary Ann STURROCK
Marriage: 2 1 1871 48 West High St., Forfar8
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3 F: Ann MARTIN
Birth: 1840 Forfar
Death: 15 6 1872 11 Howard St., St. Vigeans Parish, Arbroath, Forfar.9
Occupation: Linen weaver
Religion: Church of Scotland
Spouse: William GREIG
Marriage: 25 9 1863 Lappiedub, Forfar.10
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4 F: Agnes MARTIN
Birth: 1844 Forfar
Death: 28 3 1904 30 South St., Southmuir, Kirriemuir, Forfar.11
Occupation: Factory worker
Religion: Church of Scotland
Spouse: John Simpson CLARK
Marriage: 1 2 1867 Lappiedub, Forfar.12
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5 F: Margaret MARTIN
Birth: 1846 Forfar
Occupation: Greengrocer
Religion: Church of Scotland
Spouse: David WHITTON
Marriage: 31 12 1883 1 Lady Bridge Street, Arbroath, Forfar13
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6 M: James MARTIN
Birth: 1848 Forfar
Death: 28 5 1932 3 West Newgate, Arbroath, Forfar14
Occupation: Blacksmith journeyman.
Religion: Church of Scotland
Spouse: Jessie THOMSON
Marriage: 6 8 1868 Parish Manse, Forfar15
Spouse: Rose DUFFY
Marriage: 28 11 1874 Parish Manse, Forfar16
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7 M: John MARTIN
Birth: 1849 Forfar
Death: 4 11 1910 Monifieth, Forfar.17
Occupation: Journeyman baker.
Religion: Episcopalian
Spouse: Mary Blyth RAMSAY
Marriage: 4 12 1874 12 Bakers Wynd, Arbroath, Forfar18
Spouse: Margaret WATT
Marriage: 26 9 1868 4 Bakers Wynd, Arbroath, Forfar19
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8 M: David MARTIN
Birth: 1853 Forfar
Death: 9 12 1927 10 Craig Hall Terrace, Leith, Edinburgh.20
Occupation: House Painter.
Religion: Presbyterian
Spouse: Ann BRAID
Marriage: 2 1 1874 Kirkcaldy, Fife.21
Spouse: Louisa SAWYER
Marriage: 2 1 1899 St. George's Chapel, York Place, Edinburgh.22
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9 M: Peter MARTIN
Birth: 3 12 1855 Lappiedub, Forfar.23
Death: 29 5 1928 Royal Infirmary Dundee.24
Occupation: Tailor
Religion: Church of Scotland
Spouse: Mary Ann WILKINSON
Marriage: 6 6 1879 31 Cedar St., Glasgow.25
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All information taken from my personal database compiled from original sources - Crown Copyright acknowledge as stated.
Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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