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Topic: Wilson of Larbert (Read 1354 times)
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coonwarra
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I have Ann Wilson born in 1812 in Larbert to Peter Wilson & Isabella Brown.
I am trying to establish whether this is the Peter Wilson who was the son of Robert Wilson & Isabel Laird, who were married in Larbert in 1781.
Grateful for any assistance. 
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Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks, Templeton
Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Main, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Stirling, Wood
Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Douch, Earl, King, Ladyman, Ley, Pattenden, Peskett, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate
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Dano
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Hello,
While there is no way to be absolutely certain, I believe that you are correct.
The 1851 census of Larbert has both Peter & Isabella alive and born in Larbert;
him aged 75 her aged 75. She died 1862 in Larbert - I have her death certificate if you would like a copy. Peter I think died 1851- 1855 so I can find no record of his death. Ann Wilson married John Penman and he was the witness on Isabella's death.
Isabella's family were originally from Tilcourtry Clackmannanshire. The 2nd son I have for them is Charles Brown Wilson which confused me but Isabella has a brother Charles b 1772.
Robert Wilson & Isabel Laird are my 3x g grand parents.
regards
Dano
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Stirlingshire, Scotland - Aitken, Waddell, Wilson, Rae, Dunlop, Liddell, McLuckie. Laird
Carmarthen, Wales - Lewis
Carvan, Ireland - Coyle
N.S.W. Australia - Lewis, Morris
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Dano
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One further piece of evidence- next on the census sheet to Peter Wilson & Isabella Brown in 1851, are Peter Wilson (his nephew) and Mary Rae.
Peter b 1815 Larbert was the son of Peter's brother Adam Wilson & Margaret Fife. I can confirm through his death certificate that Adam was definitely the son of Robert Wilson & Isabel Laird.
Does this help?
Dano
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Stirlingshire, Scotland - Aitken, Waddell, Wilson, Rae, Dunlop, Liddell, McLuckie. Laird
Carmarthen, Wales - Lewis
Carvan, Ireland - Coyle
N.S.W. Australia - Lewis, Morris
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coonwarra
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Hello Dano
Thank you for this information.
I do not yet have the parents of Isabella Laird, so her death cert would be useful to have. As far as Robert Wilson is concerned I have his parents as James Wilson & Margaret Harrower who married in Tillicoultry, Clacks on 28 May 1752 - does this agree with your own records? Nothing beyond them at this stage unfortunately.
Regards
Andrew
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Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks, Templeton
Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Main, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Stirling, Wood
Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Douch, Earl, King, Ladyman, Ley, Pattenden, Peskett, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate
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Dano
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Hi Andrew,
I will send you the certificate by personal e-mail. Re the parents of Robert Wilson, I have Robert born 1756 Lasswade, Midlothian to Peter Wilson & Janet Gordon who married 1743 Lasswade, Midlothian. The children's naming patterns seem to bear this out.
Cheers
Dano
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Stirlingshire, Scotland - Aitken, Waddell, Wilson, Rae, Dunlop, Liddell, McLuckie. Laird
Carmarthen, Wales - Lewis
Carvan, Ireland - Coyle
N.S.W. Australia - Lewis, Morris
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wildgoose
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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Name: Peter WILSON
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Birth: 1778 Larbert, Stirling.
Christen: 30 12 1778 Larbert, Stirling.
Occupation: Coal miner
Father: Robert WILSON (1757-)
Mother: Isobel LAIRD (1756-)
Marriage: 1797 Larbert, Stirling.
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Spouse: Isabella BROWN
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Birth: 12 5 1776 Larbert, Stirling.
Father: William BROWN (1750-)
Mother: Agnes SMOULT (1754-)
Children:
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1 M: Robert WILSON
Birth: 1798 Larbert, Stirling.
Christen: 20 11 1798 Labert, Stirling.
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2 F: Mary Orrick WILSON
Birth: 2 5 1802 Larbert, Stirling.
Christen: 9 5 1802 Larbert, Stirling.
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3 F: Janet WILSON
Birth: 23 3 1804 Larbert, Stirling.
Christen: 25 3 1804 Larbert, Stirling.
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4 M: David WILSON
Birth: 18 6 1806 Larbert, Stirling.
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5 F: Ann WILSON
Birth: 1 3 1812 Larbert, Stirling.
Christen: 8 3 1812 Larbert, Stirling.
Death: 6 6 1897 Kinnaird, Larbert1
Occupation: Coal miner's wife
Spouse: John PENMAN
Marriage: 20 2 1831 Larbert, Stirling
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6 M: John Brown WILSON
Birth: 16 4 1814 Larbert, Stirling.
Christen: 17 4 1814 Larbert, Stirling.
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7 F: Mary WILSON
Birth: 1817 Stirling
Notes for Peter WILSON
1851 Census recs.
Census Place:Kinnaird, Stirling
Peter WILSON, 74, STI.
Isabella Brown WILSON, 75, STI.
Mary WILSON, 34, STI.
Notes for Isabella BROWN
1851 Census: Kinnaird, STI, Isabella Brown WILSON, 75yrs, PoB Stirling.
Notes for Ann (Child 5)
1851 Census: Kinnaird, STI, Ann Wilson PENMAN, 39, STI.
1861 Census: Kinnaird, Larbert, STI, Ann Wilson PENMAN, wife, marr., 50, STI, Kinnaird.
1871 Census: Kinnaird, Larbert, STI, Ann Wilson PENMAN, wife, marr., 59, STI, Kinnaird.
1881 Census: Mansfield Row, Larbert, STI, Annie Wilson PENMAN M 69 F Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. Rel: Wife.
Notes for Mary (Child 7)
1851 Census: Kinnaird, STI, Mary WILSON, 34yrs, PoB Stirling
Sources
1. Death cert. No.112
Ann PENMAN, housewife, wid. John PENMAN, coal miner.
d.1897, Jun 6th, Kinnaird, STI, age 85.
f.Peter WILSON, coal miner, decd.
m.Isabella WILSON, ms BROWN, decd.
cod.senile decay.
sign. Alex PENMAN, son, occupier.
reg.1897, June 7th, Stenhousemuir, STI
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Last Modified: 5 11 2005
Created: 1 4 2006
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All information taken from my personal database compiled from original sources - Crown Copyright acknowledge as stated.
Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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coonwarra
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This is a lot of info and ties in with what I had already.
I have another child of Peter Wilson & Isobella Brown:
Charles Brown Wilson 29 Jul 1800 Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Thanks again
Andrew
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Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks, Templeton
Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Main, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Stirling, Wood
Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Douch, Earl, King, Ladyman, Ley, Pattenden, Peskett, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate
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Dano
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Charles Brown Wilson married Margaret Peterson 1820 Larbert.
Janet Wilson married Robert Wilson (son of William WIlson & Farquhar Laing 1826 Falkirk)
David Wilson married Agnes Fyfe(Fife) 1829 Clackmannan
Cheers
Dano
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Stirlingshire, Scotland - Aitken, Waddell, Wilson, Rae, Dunlop, Liddell, McLuckie. Laird
Carmarthen, Wales - Lewis
Carvan, Ireland - Coyle
N.S.W. Australia - Lewis, Morris
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wildgoose
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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many thanks. if you want the rest of my WILSON data please email at Moderator comment: e-mail address removed to prevent spamming and other abuse. Please use personal message system to exchange e-mail addresses. Thank you!
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« Last Edit: Monday 03 April 06 16:47 UTC (UK) by Copyright-Editor »
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All information taken from my personal database compiled from original sources - Crown Copyright acknowledge as stated.
Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).
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nowayhosay
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi All,
I top can help you all on this WILSON Lines,
Just email me at
Moderator Comment: email address removed to prevent spam and other abuses. Please use the secure personal message system to share email addresses and other personal material. Thank You
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apanderson
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Hi Guys,
Your local obsessive graveyard wanderer here!
In Larbert Old Parish Churchyard are the following graves:
(Not necessarily the burial place of the people mentioned in the inscriptions as the older stones don't give any more details other than names. Where there is a year inscribed on the stone, again not necessarily either one of the couple's date of death but could be when the Lair was purchased or the date of death for one of their children)
Robert Wislon and Isobel Laird
(1853) John Penman and Ann Wilson
(1839) Peter Wilson and Agnes Rankine
Robert Wilson and Margaret Rae (Margaret died 19th March 1871 aged 25 and a child who died in infancy)
There are many more Wilsons and Penmans in the same Churchyard.
Anne
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vacuz
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This is my 2nd post (although I don't see my 1st listed yet.) Do any of you know the parents of Margaret Patterson, the wife of Charles Brown Wilson?
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vacuz
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ok; i see my 1st post didn't take. i am a descendant of Robert Wilson, the eldest son and middle child of Charles Brown Wilson & Margaret Patterson. i am definitely thrilled to find so many new cousins through the reading of this one thread--and to verify 3 generations farther back on the Brown and Wilson lines. Hope to learn even more as i am able to make contact with those of you who also descend from his grandparents--and it sounds like there may be quite a few of us. Robert emigrated with his younger brother Peter and their respective wives from Clackmannan to America in 1848 with several other members of the LDS Church which they had joined in Clackmannan. I believe his mother was born in Clackmannan and that the family returned to her native county after Charles Brown Wilson died (sometime before an assumed 2nd marriage to Alexander Fife in 1833 Clackmannan.) One question has always puzzled the descendants of this emigrant, Robert Wilson. Once in America he went by the name Robert Knox Wilson. Might anybody have a clue as to why somebody would add this middle name (which, as far as I can tell, has no genealogical significance)?
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joanofacre
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I am intrested to find out more information on your clackmannan Pattersons .....I am looking for more information regarding Alexander Patterson b abt 1809 of Dollar m in Dollar 1834 to Jane Ross b 18 children also born in Dollar dau Christian son George Migrated to Australia
1839 with Simpsons & Anderson families connected to Montgomery & Ross in Edinburgh
Do you have an Alexander or any Dollar Pattersons...
Regards Joanofacre
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