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KathyM
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Found this today in parish records - "ex morbo predicto"
can anyone tell me the meaning ?
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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Berlin-Bob
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"ex" = out of, from within, from; on account of.
"morbus" = illness, disease or death
"predicto" I can't find, could it have been praedictiô , a foretelling, prediction:
which gives us:
unpredicted death,
or: on account of unexpected illness
or : died due to unexpected illness
or: unexpected death
Does any of that fit what with the rest of what you've found ?
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« Last Edit: Tuesday 05 October 04 13:15 BST (UK) by Berlin-Bob »
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Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe; Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861) and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site. All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk) |
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M.T.H
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I agree with Bob 
From the definitions he provided, I would say that it is in referral to someone who was not expected to live very long and that death was 'predicted',
Mick 
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KathyM
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It was in a parish register after a burial entry - so, is it = died unexpectedly ?
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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Berlin-Bob
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Just as well I have so little to do at work, at the moment.
I found that the LDS has a "Latin - Genealogical Word List " http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/guide/WLLatin.asp
ex = from, out of (places of origin)
morbus = disease
predictus = aforesaid
so that gives us "from the aforesaid disease" or "[died] from the previously mentioned disease"
does that fit ?
A cautionary note, found on another site:
And bear in mind that a great number of clergymen didn't really understand Latin that well either, so they made mistakes. And when in doubt, wrote it in English and made it look like Latin !
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It was of the meaning "Of natural clauses". When trite phrases are in common use they often will not respond to literal translation.
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Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa. Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Thanks for that answer, Hackstaple.
Kathy, sorry if I sent you off in the wrong direction !
It was great fun looking, better than working !, but maybe I should stick to computers 
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KathyM
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Is natural clauses something like natural causes then ? Sorry - couldn't resist! But thank you all for the help ......
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~~~~~~~~ Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukArdill, Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg, Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson, Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole. Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary |
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