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mariac
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Iam very new to this so please bear with me if I make mistakes. Iam looking for John Mciver(born 29/12/1856 in Uig) and Mary Mciver his sister (born6/1/1862 Carloway) Their parents Finlay and Ann immigrated to Australia in 1884 with the other children but John and Mary remained in Scotland. Would anyone be able to tell me how to go about finding out what happened to them. Thanks a lot Mariac
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mariac
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Hi Russell, Thanks for the kind words and the advice on Seallam and Scotlands People. I will see if I can find a way to find out info from them. They sound like just what is needed. I dont know if John became a policeman. Would there be any means of checking this out do you know? Thanks again. Mariac
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mariac
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Hi Gadget, I have just realised I have made a mistake in asking after John Mciver. I should have said Donald Mciver born 2/4/1859. Shall have to be more careful in future. Any idea where I may be able to get a look-up on those census years. Thanks for you help. Mariac
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Arranroots
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Hi Maria!
He doesn't show up on Freecen, so I guess the area he was in has not yet been covered for these years.
I would recommend the IGI, but it is down at the moment! You should get something from that when it returns, with a bit of luck!
I have e-mailed a friend who is interested in Police history in this area, so keep your fingers crossed (hello if you are reading this!! )
kind regards, Arranroots 
(I also have a McIver from this area - Kate born c 1861 Gaerloch, later married John Kennedy CAMERON)
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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mariac
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Hi there Arranroots, I still have a lot to learn in the genealogy field but its fascinating. My MCivers are mainly from Carloway and Uig. I have managed to trace back to Angus Mciver who married Mary Mackay . they had a son Donald (b 1797)who married Henrietta Macarthur(b 1801) . Three children Ann,Mary and Finlay(b 1830). Finlay married Ann Macarthur and had 10children of whom Donald and Mary were 2. Who was your Kates parents? Would be interesting to know if there is any relationship. Thanks also for asking your friend in Police history. Do hope something comes up. Thanks heaps.Mariac
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Arranroots
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Who was your Kates parents?
I have no idea!! 
I have only recently got started on this line, mainly due to aforementioned Police correspondent, who was interested in the CAMERON angle.
I am going to embarrass myself further by asking where Carloway is? My map can't find it!
I will have to look at scotlandspeople and find out some background for Kate. I have a lovely photo of her, so that is motivation
kind regards, Arranroots 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Gadget
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Hi Maria I've just been shaking the R and C dust out of my house and watching an otter in the bay just in front of the house  The best way to find them is to look at the census info on Scotlands People. But this does cost  One thing that I forgot to mention last night was the surname, MacIver. Last year, I did the history of one of my local friends. They were mainly MacLeods but he also had MacIver and Campbell lines, amongst others. Arranroots might know more about this but, as far as I can recall, the MacIvers were often Campbell's in disguise (after Glencoe) and the surnames were often used interchangeably. Gadget
(Ps. Carloway is on the west coast of Lewis - there is a burial mound there. I might even have a photo somewhere)
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ADP
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A couple of items to watch for:
(1) There is more than one Uig. I presume that you are after Uig, Isle of Lewis, Ross and Cromarty; and not the better known Uig, Isle of Skye, Inverness-shire. (Uig is the Gaelic spelling; the English form is Wick; from the Norse word Vik, meaning bay.)
(2) Carloway was not an established parish in the OPR system. It came into Lochs parish. Carloway came into being as a registration district in 1859. Watch out for it appearing by its Gaelic spelling - Càrlabhagh.
Unfortunately there are no surviving OPRs for Lochs or Uig before 1820.
And as one of the other correspondents said, I will agree that area is a beautiful part of the world.
Carloway can be found on a map using the English spelling on www.streetmap.co.uk where you will find it on the map by the Gaelic spelling.
Some pictures of the broch at Dun Carloway can be found at http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/lewis/duncarloway/index.html Gaelic = Dùn Chàrlabhaigh
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Gadget
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Hi Maria
I think I've found your Donald on the 1881. He is living with his grandmother (Henny, widowed, aged 80) in Uig. He is shown as unmarried, aged 23, b. Uig, R & C, a fisherman. Also there is Henny's unmarried daughter, Ann, aged 56, formerly a domestic servant.
I might just try the 1891 
Gadget
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Gadget
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Maria
I think it might be worth your spending £6 on Scotlands People. I believe that Donald did become a Police Constable. In 1891, I have possibly found him, living with his family (wife Mary) and children Donald, Ann and Finlay in 37 Belgrave Street,Glasgow. He had been there at least 3 years as his eldest child aged 3 was born there. It states that he and Mary were born ?Breadelets, Ross-shire.
Gadget
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Arranroots
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Thanks for the info everyone - I am learning lots here!
Found this
http://www.ancestralscotland.com/clandetails.html?clan=mciver.html
and Googling produces several lines that emigrated to Oz - but then, I hadn't appreciated quite how "popular" the name is! 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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mariac
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Gadget you are worth your weight in gold. It certainly sounds like my Donald and with his childrens names the same as his siblings. He was a policeman after all.Yes I assume Breasclet and Uig are close together. Not that Iam familiar with Scotland. Some places mentioned are Little Berneray Uig, as well as breasclet, Uig and Carloway. I just cant believe the amount of help I have been given. Thanks again all.Mariac
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mariac
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Arranroots Iam interested in the Google site that mentioned the Mcivers emigrating to Oz. Would you still have the name of the site. Thanks Mariac
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