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Jessy
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Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« on: Sunday 19 March 06 16:54 UTC (UK) »

Mary Ogle went to Northumberland Village Homes whitley bay at the age of 11 but the next we know of her she died in Toronto between 1900 and 1905 of Diptheria along with her two babies.  She was married to an Arthur Weatherby - was he canadian??  How did she get to Toronto did she go from the home via the church as an emigrante??  Im stuck!!  She was born 1880 in Newcastle.  Any help gratefully received.  Thanks Jessy
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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 March 06 17:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jessy,

There is a death registration for

Mary Weatherby
Date of Death:  May 3, 1905
Place of Birth:  England
Married
Address at time of death:  149 Euclid Ave., Toronto
Cause:  Acute Nepritis

There is also a death registration for

Alice Weatherby
Date of Death:  October 30, 1904
Place of Birth:  England
She was 4 years old
Address:  149 Euclid Ave., Toronto
Cause:  Diptheria

Do you know if one of the babies was named Alice?

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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 March 06 17:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi Karen, This looks very promising.  No I dont know names of children.  Her husband was called Arthur and I guess if the child was born england he was too.  They must have emigrated!!!  Her other child also died of diptheria is there any mention of him/her??  Any more info you can find would be very very gratefully received - Thanks again Jessy
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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 March 06 21:20 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jessy,
There is
Arthur Weatherby age 25 b. Halme Walfield,Chesher,  a Police Constable
Mary Weatherby    age  22 b. Newcastle On Tyne, Northbd
Alice Weatherby  age 3m   b. Haslington, Chester 
1901 British Census living Haslington,Chester
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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 March 06 00:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jessy,

I'm not having much luck finding the other baby?  I havn't been able to find Arthur in the 1911 Census either.  Do you think maybe he went back to England after his wife and children died?  You couldn't blame him if he did want to leave this place after losing his family so young.

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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 March 06 09:21 UTC (UK) »

Hello Karen, Maybe there was no other baby its just rumours.  I did find out last night that Arthur was a police constable and wondered if he maybe emigrated to become a mounty??  Mary had a very sad life in England.Her mother went into the workhouse father was blind she went into a home married arthur they went to canada about 1901 - baby died then her.  What a wreched life - I just feel the more I find out the closer I become to her but its very sad.  Thanks for all your help Wink If you do come across anything else on your travels I would love to hear.  Thanks again  Jessy Smiley
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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 March 06 09:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi Shealer,  Thank you for info last night.  I have been trying to find Arthurs background but cannot trace him even on IGI in his early years or his parents.  Can you help please??? Huh  Jessy
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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 March 06 03:22 UTC (UK) »

Hey Jessy,
Here's one for your maybe list, as J.J. likes to call it  Smiley  This Arthur Weatherby Boon could be connected to your Arthur Weatherby - I'm thinking cousins, maybe the son of an Aunt Weatherby who married a Boon? Look at the address! They are living on the same street as your Arthur and Mary.

Boon, Mary Alice Weatherby,
b. Nov. 2, 1906,
Father: Arthur Boon, Teamster,
Mother: Mary Ellen Berf,
infm: Arthur Weatherby Boon. 17 Euclid Av
009426-06 (Toronto)
Vital Statistics: Province of Ontario 1869 - 1930

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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 March 06 04:54 UTC (UK) »

Wow, Denise and Karen have been busy...I'm just poking in for less than my 2 cents worth...

I imagine you have the BMD infomation now, that they were married nantwich
registered in the March quarter 1901...http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Alice's birth is also listed...No sign of any other Weatherby child for nantwich, but then it's incomplete...Could try the new ancestry...but  without a name, a guessing game..

Two Arthurs born Cheshire...but would have been aweful young...1883 & 1886...again it's incomplete...

But at least you can order the marriage cert and see if the parents names are hopefully listed!

Interesting find with the Boon name, Denise... Like Karen you're becoming quite the detective...
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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 21 March 06 05:01 UTC (UK) »

Have you ruled out the Arthur Weatherby who's 8 in the 1881
- born 1875 Somerford Booths Cheshire...He'd have been just 5 years
older than Mary?
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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 21 March 06 09:14 UTC (UK) »

Hey thanks to all three of you!!!  Yes I think he is the somerford booths Weatherby.  And finding maybe his relatives could explain why they went out there.  Especially living in the same street.  Could one of you give me the birth details of baby Alice in Cheshire please I would like to order a birth cert. for my collection.  In ignorance does infm. on census for relations mean information given by?Huh Cheesy Jessy
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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 21 March 06 12:04 UTC (UK) »

http://www.henriettesherbal.com/eclectic/thomas/brights-acu.html - looks like she died of Acute Nephritis, ('Nepritis' on death certificate, sic) which is more common in men than in women but one of the possible causes listed here is pregnancy, and it can also follow diptheria.  I wonder if she became ill while pregnant with her second child, and miscarried late or the child was stillborn.  That might explain why the second child isn't on the usual indexes.
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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 March 06 13:09 UTC (UK) »

Hmm,

Here is a death registration for

Mary Alice Weatherby Boon
Date of Death:  August 31, 1907
Residence:  147 Euclid Ave, Toronto
Place of Birth:  Toronto
Age:  10 years
Father:  Arthur Weatherby Boon
Cause of Death:  Eutero Colitis & Cholorea Inflamation
Length of Illness:  3 weeks
Religion:  RC

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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 March 06 13:26 UTC (UK) »

Life must have been hard in those days.  Euclid Avenue is still around now but I wonder if it was a poor rundown area then???
I think thats a valid point about the  second baby being still born maybe.  These are just rumours that have come down the generations to me  but its marvelous that I am able to put the pieces in the puzzle thanks to your help.  Jessy
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Re: Mary Ogle died Toronto 1900 - 1905
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 21 March 06 13:30 UTC (UK) »

Jessy - do you remember me telling you on your other thread that the parents of the Arthur Weatherby born Somerford Booths were actually down as 'Weatherby Boon' on the 1891  census? Seems like all ties in very nicely  Cheesy
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