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DonK
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Need info for James J. Kagle (Caygill?) who married Ellen Davidson from the Durham (Bishopwearmouth?) area prior to 1849. They also have a Thompson/Watts family connection. All three of these families moved to the U.S. by 1850 and stayed connected here in the Maryland/Washington D.C. area. Any data would help in locating them in England. Thanks! Don
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DonK
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Andrea:
The Kagle, Thompson, and Watt families all arrived in the Wash. D.C. area just after the 1850 US Census was taken, that is without question. They first appear in the 1860 US Census and have just moved into Maryland. James and Ellen Kagle had their first four children: Mary Ann b:1851, William b:1853, James b:1856 and George b:1860 my great great grand father, all enumerated as being born in Wash. D.C. The Thompson and Watts families lived on adjacent farms and were involved with James Kagle concerning land purchases in D.C. and stayed in contact into the 1900's. There are Death Certificates for various members of the family which give Durham as the place of origin for Ellen (Davidson) Kagle. I am trying to locate the original Kagle (Caygill) hopefully from the Durham area also in order to expand the line in England.
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2zpool
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So if we need to look for James and Ellen in England it is more important that you give us their ages.--Age in the 1860 and 1870 US census. If they are still alive then month and year in the 1900 census.
Janis
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Co. Durham: Hall, Snowdon, Makepeace, Barnfather, Barrass, Gray/Grey, Wilson, Carr, Cole, Richardson, Greener Northumberland: Grey/Gray, Richardson, Barnfather, Heron, Redpath ------------------------------------------------------------------ Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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DonK
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Janis:
James J. Kagle b:abt. 1825 d:12Apr1897 1860 census has him as 32y.o. Farmer. Ellen b:Sep1830 d:04Oct1908 1860 census has her as 29y.o. 1870 census James 50y.o., Ellen 45y.o. 1880 census James 54y.o., Ellen 50y.o. Someone got a little confused about their age.
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Don
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DonK
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Andrea:
I have a copy of the 1880 US census in front of me. It lists the following: James 54, & Ellen 50 both born in England. Sons James J. 23, & Geroge 21 both born in D.C. Dau. Emma 17 born Maryland. Son Joseph 12 born in Md. Daughters Ella 10 & Annie 7 both born in Md.
The Watts family is still the next family enumerated, Charles Watts has died and is survived by his wife Annie 54 yo. who may be a Kagle, but is more probably Ellen Davidson's sister.
Thanks again.
Don
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DonK
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Andrea:
Please excuse me for not knowing, but is Leeds in Durham? The 1849 date is a possibility for their marriage. I did notice that in the IGI records that Caygill's are plentiful in Durham, and you are right Kagle does not show up anywhere that I can find either. Interesting note on the 1860 US census Kagle was spelled Cagle. Afterward always Kagle. Obviously, a spelling change occurred upon their arrival into the US. My assumption of a Germantic surname, before the discovery of their English origin, was wrong.
Don
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Thanks Jennifer:
Leeds wouldn't seem a likely place for a marriage to someone from Durham, given the distance and the mobility of the people, for that time period.
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2zpool
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I looked under Ellen and Eleanor Davidson and Davison. I looked from 1848-1850. Several entries for Co. Durham and one for Newcastle but no James Caygill or variations as husband. So do we know they were married when they emigrated? Have you their names on a ship manifest?
Janis
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Co. Durham: Hall, Snowdon, Makepeace, Barnfather, Barrass, Gray/Grey, Wilson, Carr, Cole, Richardson, Greener Northumberland: Grey/Gray, Richardson, Barnfather, Heron, Redpath ------------------------------------------------------------------ Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Janis:
Thank you for the response. I can only assume that they were married upon arrival in the US. I feel strongly that they traveled as a group with Ellen's family. Their first child, Mary Ann was born on 10Jul1851 in D.C. My best guess is that she was conceived here, but one never knows if she was legitimate! No record of marriage has surfaced so far in Md. or D.C. No clue as to the ship or place of entry. Could have been New York, Washington D.C., Annapolis, or Baltimore.
D.
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