patvp1
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Have just found the birth of my g/g/grandfather John Robertson in Dollar Clackmannanshire
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Dollar 04 Aug 1829
Natural son of Donald Robertson and Christian Mitchell born 30 Jan last, baptized this day at the Manse, the mother being a spinster.
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on the IGI his date of birth is listed as 30th Jan 1829 and baptism is as above.
On his death cert 30Jul 1877, his mother is listed as Christian Mitchell now Wright...a fathers name is not mentioned.
Found a marriage for a Robert Wright and Christian Mitchel and the 1851 census states she was born in Dollar but cannot find a birth for her ...can anyone help please..there is a member submitted record on IGI for a marriage but that would make her 14 years old when she had John Robertson..have tried every which way for a birth and nothing on his natural father either...all info greatly accepted.patvp
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CaroleW
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Hi
Re: the submitted marriage entry for Robert Wright/Christian Mitchell on 13.4.1832. Submitted entries are always suspect as they are the product of somebody else's research which may not always be accurate
It shows that Robert was 18 at the time of marriage so allegedly born 1814 - incorrect
The 1841 shows his birthyear as 1805 and Christian's as 1807
The 1851 shows his birthyear as 1805 and Christian's as 1806
The 1861 shows Christian widowed and birthyear 1804
Those birthyears would make her mid 20's when she had John
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CaroleW
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The 1841 has a 12 year old John Robertson living with a 75 year old Christian Fulton in Dollar
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patvp1
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Thank you both for that info. Yes I had noted John was living with Christian Fulton but have no idea who she is..may have been close as he named one of his son's Fulton Robertson and his second daughter was Christina Mitchell Robertson..so we do have the "naming"thingy. Did a search on SP last night for Christian the only two remotely close are both born in Alloa 1801 and 1803..nothing in Dollar  And so far have been unable to find a death for her..very elusive lady this one..worked my way thru'IGI for both Christian and Donald Robertson ..no luck... could she have told "fibs"about the fathers name or was this taken seriously.. This is driving me nuts..patvp
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patvp1
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Have just searched for a death for Christian under Mitchell and Wright ...nothing doing...that was for Clacks !!!
So..have the marriage GROS 467/0030 0166 in 1832.
No birth and no death ??AAaaagh
Where on earth do I go from here patvp
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CaroleW
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Not all children were baptised and even if they were - the LDS have not transcribed every baptism on the IGI
Christian is not on the 1871 census so presumably died between 1861-1871
I doubt the 1832 marriage entry will tell you anything more unless either of the witnesses was a Mitchell, so, even though it's frustrating - sometimes you have to accept that you've gone as far as you can on a person
I have had to give up on my paternal great grandparents because of the lack of Irish records
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patvp1
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Thanks Carole..know what you mean about frustrating.. even wondered if she may have been a Mitchie as they are in family tree as well..well will put them on the back burner for the time being..regards patvp
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merryhow
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Hi, perhaps this is your Christian,
CHRISTIAN MITCHEL b Jun 1801, ch 2nd Sept 1804 Muckhart Perthshire. Father William Mitchel no Mother listed. Although in Perthshire Muckhart is only a couple of miles from Dollar.
Val
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DavidofLincs
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Pat,
Just a thought - if John Robertson's death certificate in 1877 gives his mother as "Christian Mitchell now Wright", then presumably she was still alive. The certificate will usually note if a parent is deceased. So, then you should be looking for her death from 1877 onwards.
David (Robertson)
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DavidofLincs
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Looks pretty good to me. If the death certificate information is correct, then she was born about 1804, but her parents are John Mitchell and Christina Ramage. This seems to rule out the birth/baptism entry found by Val in Muckhart where the father's name is given as William Mitchel. Anyway, now you can start looking for a Mitchell-Ramage marriage.
David.
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patvp1
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Thank you both very much for that information. Have checked IGI so far cannot find a marriage for John Mitchell and Christian Rammage/Ramage nor a birth for Christian, but did find two sons born to John and Christian ..John 06 Oct 1807 at Dollar and James 18 Jul 1795 also at Dollar..will keep searching..once again thank you patvp
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Just searched Scotland People..no marriage for John and Christian..did find a birth for a Christian Ramage 1745 at Alloa ..parents John Ramage and Christian Hunter..
Only marriges for Christian Ramage
1765 to William Hunter Alloa.
and to James Bowie in 1812 at Dollar.
This has got me beat Patvp
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