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serefina
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I have just found my great grandmothers maidename she was Maryann seibuhr born 1877 married my greatgrandfather in Liverpool 1894 could any body tell me where this name would have originated from please .I do have a picture of her father in a masters uniform.
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Berlin-Bob
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Hi Serafina,
Welcome to RootsChat 
SEIBUHR or, even more likely, SIEBUHR could be a german name.
Possibly also from the Austro-Hungarian empire, which included bits of most of Central and East Europe at various times.
Posiibly even polish in the sense of coming from the former german parts of today's Poland (Silesia/Schlesien)
Do you have any other details at all ??
Good luck,
Bob
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jorose
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1881 census shows in Liverpool
Charles Seibuhr, 70, widower, b. Liverpool, Mariner
George, 25, son, married, mariner, b. Liverpool
Margaret, 24, 'dau', married, occupation 'wife', b. Liverpool
Mary Ann, 4, 'dau' - probably of George and Margaret - b. Liverpool.
George Seibuhr m. probably Margaret Sheridan in Liverpool Mar 1876 quarter.
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In 1861 Charles is down as a Prussian / English subject
RG9/2654/15/24
Charles SEIBUHR H M 50 - mariner rigger - Prussia English subject
Mary W M 48 - Ireland
Henry son U 19 - pupil teacher - Lancs Liverpool
Joseph son 15 - scholar - ditto
Alfred son 13 - ditto - ditto
George son 11 - ditto - ditto
Mary Ann dau 2 - Liverpool
Address: number 3 15 Court, Mon?by St, Liverpool St Martin
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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1851 census:
HO107/2177/494/49 - Jubilee Square, 15 Hornby St, N° 5, Liverpool
Charles Seaburn Head 38 Rigger b. Jersey 
Mary Seaburn Wife 38 b. Liverpool
Henry Seaburn Son 11 Scholar b. Liverpool
Alexander Seaburn Son 9 b. Liverpool
Joseph Seaburn Son 5 b. Liverpool
Alfred Seaburn Son 10m b. Liverpool
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Arranroots
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That's one confused matelot, LOL!
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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3 births located so far on IGI:
Charles Seaborn (1836)
Frederick Siebuhr (1840) - death as Frederick Sieburd on FreeBMD
Henry James Seibuhr (1841)
Seaborn is a great name for a sailor! 
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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serefina
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Thankyou all so much that is definatley my family I have been trying to find her maiden name and family for months and to find all this out in one day is unbelievable as you can guess I am a novice .
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If you go to Free BMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl and search "All types" - surname: seib* - born Lancashire, you'll find a few entries for your family. (Also under sieb*)
Unfortunately, it looks as though Charles and Mary married before the start of civil registration in 1837, so the best way to find out her maiden name will be to get a birth certificate for one of their children. The hardest part will be finding one with all those spelling variations!
At the moment it's possible to search the original images of the complete GRO index at http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx - it takes a while, especially when there a several possible spellings, but hopefully you'll be able to track one of them down.
I can't find the family on the other censuses, but I'll keep looking!
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« Last Edit: Sunday 26 March 06 11:12 BST (UK) by Manchester Rambler »
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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serefina
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Hi Rambler,
Thankyou so much.is this normal for people to have so many different surnames ?
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Hi Serefina,
is this normal for people to have so many different surnames ?
This happens, even with english surnames, as many spelt the name as the heard it.
With 'foreign' names, the problem is even worse, as many enumerators and registrars wouldn't have had a clue !
For instance, in german 'ei' is always pronounced 'eye' and 'ie' is pronounced 'ee'
and 'th' is always pronounced as if just 't'
So after after years of living her in Berlin, I automatically pronounce them the 'german way' and have to be careful to think 'Kite' when I am writing 'Keith' so that I spell it correctly - otherwise I think a spoken 'ee' is written 'ie' and automatically start to write Kieth.
Or Maschine instead of machine etc, etc, etc, etc
So your SEIBUHR would be pronounced Seyeburr and SIEBUHR would be Seeburr and who knows what the various enumerators and registrars thought they had heard !
Bob
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serefina
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Thanks Bob,
that makes a lot of sense .We were led to believe that we had descended from russia but russia and prussia sound so alike it is quite confusing.
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