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Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« on: Saturday 25 March 06 16:22 GMT (UK) »

Trying to work out what town/place this is in Suffolk. Your help greatly appreciated.
Annie


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Re: Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 March 06 16:40 GMT (UK) »

It looks like Trowes.  No idea where it is though.  Have you found Benjamin on any census before 1871?   That might help.
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Re: Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 March 06 16:49 GMT (UK) »

It does indeed look like Trowes, but I can't find one anywhere, let alone Suffolk. There's a Trowse Newton near Norwich, Norfolk.

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Re: Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 March 06 17:03 GMT (UK) »

I had a look through the list of Suffolk parishes and can't find anything that might match the name.
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Re: Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 March 06 17:23 GMT (UK) »

Can you give us anymore writing to compare with Annie?  That might help.

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Re: Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 March 06 17:51 GMT (UK) »

It is Benjamin Harren in 1871 age 87 but he is in the workhouse and there is nothing on the page anything like it.
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Re: Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 March 06 18:16 GMT (UK) »

You're right, Andrea: I've looked at the census records and it's hard to make it anything but Trowse. Time for lateral thinking. And these Rootschatters can be very lateral!

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Re: Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 March 06 18:34 GMT (UK) »

There appears to be a Trowse on the outskirts of Norwich. Try putting it in to Google.
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Re: Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 March 06 18:49 GMT (UK) »

Have a look here Annie  http://www.workhouses.org/  secect 'Workhouse Locations' then 'English Poor Law Unions' then 'Norwich' and Trowse is one of the sixteen districts it embraces.

Norfolk and Suffolk do border each other and boundaries have been known to change!

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Re: Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 26 March 06 12:12 BST (UK) »

I don't think Norwich has ever been in Suffolk, though. Lateral thinking initially made me think what letters could be formed in this way, but then I wondered about another direction. The original cathedral serving E Anglia in Saxon times is located in what is now the North Sea. Perhaps it is the name of a village or hamlet that suffered a similar fate in the last 150 years?
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Re: Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 01 April 06 17:32 BST (UK) »

Trying to work out what town/place this is in Suffolk. Your help greatly appreciated.
Annie

Hi,
It looks like Howes to me - do you think this hamlet is where he lived?

IMPINGTON, Cambridgeshire
The parish included part of the medieval hamlet of Howes north of the Cambridge-Huntingdon road

From: 'Impington: Introduction', A History of the County of Cambridge and the Isle of Ely: Volume 9: Chesterton, Northstowe, and Papworth Hundreds (1989), pp. 129-31. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=15359. Date accessed: 19 March 2006.

Good Luck
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Re: Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 01 April 06 17:52 BST (UK) »

Hi again,
I've looked in the a2a catalogue and there's no hamlet, manor or parish with the name of Trowes.   However, in the Suffolk record Office archives there is a bundle of Barnardiston family papers in which this place is mentioned:-

"Manor of Howes in Alderton".

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Re: Suffolk Town- Can you decipher this place??
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 01 April 06 21:59 BST (UK) »

It definitely looks like Trowse to me, too. Most of my ancestors are from Suffolk, but on occasions the Suffolk towns and villages are entered in censuses as being in Norfolk. If the information was given by a friend or family member, or if the person left the area when they were young, they may not be sure of the county.

Hope this helps,
Chris
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