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Dave Francis
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Re: Kathleen KEIGHTLEY (D) 1929
« Reply #45 on: Monday 27 March 06 18:16 UTC (UK) »
I've just realised/noticed something.

If you follow the website link I posted above, and find Arthur's entry, you will also find a note of his second marriage.  And a son and two children from that marriage.  All three are listed as "living".

Does Sally's mother-in-law know that she has a half-brother with children who are still alive???

Dave
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Re: Kathleen KEIGHTLEY (D) 1929
« Reply #46 on: Monday 27 March 06 18:31 UTC (UK) »
Hi Dave

I just had a look at that site. Mother in law is listed as Kathleen J obviously a typing error as she is June Kathleen.

The half brother yes she does know him - he was born to Arthur and new wife Gertrude but mother in law wasn't wanted in their new life together which is why she was brought up by Arthur's parents.

thanks for that i will pass that website on to her.

Sally
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Re: Kathleen KEIGHTLEY (D) 1929
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 19:23 UTC (UK) »
Hi Arranroots & Tanja

We have got the marriage certificate copy for Arthur F Hadgraft and Nellie K M Keightley and this is my mother-in-laws parents. (She was very pleased with that).

On the marriage certificate Nellie Keightley's father says Harry Keightley - tobacco worker etc.  Originated from Boston Lincs. Seems to have moved to Ipswich in 1901 and lived at 18 Surbiton Road.

What i can't find is Nellie's birth documented anywhere (mother in law still says she remembers being told her mother was born in Malmo Sweden) bearing in mind she had older sisters Anne and Doris whom would have been born after the 1901 census and before 1908.

Apart from the 3 we saw in Yorkshire when you looked for me on Sunday. To complicate matters i cannot see any record of Harry living in Yorkshire at any time.

Are you confused yet? I am.
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Re: Kathleen KEIGHTLEY (D) 1929
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 20:29 UTC (UK) »
A shot in the dark, but a possibility ...

The age of this Harry matches the 1901 Census.

1881 Census of Boston, Lincolnshire
RG11/3218 folio 114 page 24
Robert Keightley, head, mar, 33, Tobacco Manufacturer, Wisbeach Cambridge
Ann Keightley, wife, mar, 34, West Keal Lincolnshire
Florence C Keightley, daur , 10, scholar, Boston Lincolnshire
Gertrude Keightley, daur, 9, scholar, Boston Lincolnshire
Harry Keightley, son, 7, scholar, Boston Lincolnshire
Maud Keightley, daur, 5, scholar, Boston Lincolnshire
Robert Keightley, son, 3, Boston Lincolnshire
Percy Keightley, son, 2, Boston Lincolnshire
William Leggate, visitor, unm, 29, Moulder Iren, Old Bolingbroke Lincolnshire
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Re: Kathleen Keightley (D) 1929
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 30 March 06 04:01 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Arranroots on Sunday 26 March 06 13:08 UTC (UK)
If I were a betting person

1901 census

RG13/1774/151/29

Harry KEIGHTLEY H M - 27 - packer in tobacco factory - Lincolnshire Boston
Nellie L W M 21 - Suffolk Ringshall

Address: 18 Surbiton Road, Ipswich St Matthew, Suffolk

What do you think?

 Wink

We should definitely let Arranroots play the lottery for us, what do you think?

Tanja  Smiley
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Re: Kathleen KEIGHTLEY (D) 1929
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 30 March 06 04:11 UTC (UK) »
1837online.com hold the GRO consular birth indices for 1849 to 1965. Perhaps you could ask for a look-up?   

This should be Harry's birth:
Harry Keightley
March quarter 1874
Boston registration district
7a 435

Would you like Nellie Laflin in 1891 in the meantime? (If you search for her in 1881, she's Ellen L)

1891
RG12/1456 17 3
Combs, Suffolk
Hadliegh Road
Frederick Laflin, had 47, Agricultural labourer, b. Suffolk Ringshall
Eliza, wife, 43, b. Willisham
Alice, dau, 15, b. Ringshall
Nellie, dau, 10, b. Ringshall
Kate, dau, 8, b. Ringshall

Frederick can be traced back to 1851, where he is with his grandparents. He's never with his parents though.
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Re: Kathleen KEIGHTLEY (D) 1929
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 30 March 06 09:14 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Tanya Smiley
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