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perilsofpauline1
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"Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 06 02:10 BST (UK) »

Hi,
Does being a "native" of a place mean that the person was born there?
I have a puzzle in that my John PORTER, who I was led to believe, was born in Newburn, Northumberland, now has been quoted on his son's christening, to be a native of Whitchurch, Shropshire.
Thankyou to anyone who can help with this.
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Re: "Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 March 06 11:34 BST (UK) »

Hi Pauline,

I would have thought it meant "born" there - but perhaps it could be used to mean brought up - so doesn't help much.

Do you have any census details - are they consistant ??

Cheers

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Re: "Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 01:33 BST (UK) »

Hi Keith,
Unfortunately is was too early for census details, but the whole family were from Northumberland so I'll go with that. If you have the 1841 census, he might just be on that. He'd be about 51 years old. Now I look at the ages, he could even be on the 1851! Do you have them Keith, or should I ask everyone?
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Re: "Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 01:37 BST (UK) »

Hi again Keith - had a major senior moment. My first comment about being to early for census details was correct! I then went on to give his sons ages etc.
John and Alice were already producing children in 1783, so am pretty sure they wouldn't be on any census.  Sorry!!!
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Re: "Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 11:30 BST (UK) »

Hi Pauline,

No problem - with the ages!!  Grin Grin

The local library has the 1841 census for Whitchurch and the local area - if you think any might be around then let me know the details.

Cheers

Keith
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Re: "Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 May 06 20:18 BST (UK) »

Hi Pauline.

I am looking for Porters from Co Durham.  I have a John Porter from Shadforth died 1874 aged 53.  Is it the same one? son called Ralph.  I am afraid I havent got any further back but have my direct family lieage from there.
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Re: "Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 27 May 06 21:14 BST (UK) »

I hope you don't mind me butting in here!!!! but to save Keith a trip to his local library I have looked at the 1841 and there are 4 John Porter's listed living in Whitchurch.

They are aged 45, 25, and two 5 year olds.

Would you like the details?

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Re: "Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 May 06 03:43 BST (UK) »

Hello Jan - I am so terribly sorry not to have replied sooner - my life seems to be one continual race! Plus I went and visited my brother and sister-in-law for a week and directed all my mail into the Drafts folder.  So what am I doing now, but finding all these replies to my post!
If you still have those details Jan, I would be very grateful to have them, but if not, I totally understand!  Embarrassed
Many apologies,
Pauline
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Re: "Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 June 06 18:33 BST (UK) »

I can look them up for you again, no problem at all Wink

Will post the details later.

Jan
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Re: "Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 02 June 06 23:57 BST (UK) »

Thankyou very much Jan - greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
Pauline
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Re: "Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 June 06 22:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Pauline

Here you go.................. Wink


HO107/903/2 folio 4 page 4 - Ash Magna, Whitchurch

John Porter 45 Groom  Born in County "Yes"

It's quite difficult to tell from the markings on the image who exactly he is living with!!!! It would seem to be William Gille??? (hard to read unfortunately) age 70.


HO107/903/3 page 3 line number 19
Lower Lea, Whitchurch

John Porter 25 Ag Lab Y
Elizabeth Porter 30 Y
Ann Porter 3 Y
George Porter 2 Y
Abram Porter 5 months Y
Ann Tudor F.S. Y



HO107/903/10 page 1 line number 18
Heath Lane, Tilstock, Whitchurch

William Porter 40 Y
Ann Porter 44 Y
Ann Porter 13 Y
Elizabeth Porter 8 Y
John Porter 5 Y   



HO107/903/12 folio 37 page 27
Green End, Whitchurch

George Porter 40 Sadler Y
Elizabeth Porter 34 Y
Mary Porter 8 Y
Geoge Porter 7 Y
John Porter 5 Y
Elizabeth Porter 2 Y
Sarah Porter 5 months Y


Hope this helps!!!

Jan



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Re: "Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 05 June 06 03:48 BST (UK) »

That is wonderful Jan - thank you very very much.  Cheesy

All the best,
Pauline (or perilous as some of my friends call me!!)
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« Reply #12 on: Monday 05 June 06 03:51 BST (UK) »

Hiya Brad,
I was going through this list of emails, and wondered if I had answered your?
If not, I am extremely sorry, and will check my files, and get back to you,
Regards
Pauline
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Re: "Native" of Whitchurch Shropshire?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 June 06 19:59 BST (UK) »

That is wonderful Jan - thank you very very much.  Cheesy

All the best,
Pauline (or perilous as some of my friends call me!!)

Glad to be of help Perilous!!!!!!!! Grin


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