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adicol
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Can anyone please help me find Thomas Rothery, born c 1834 in Whitehaven Cumberland.
He married a Mary Jane (surname unknown as I cant find there marriage), and they had a son in 1860 called John Rothery in Whitehaven, Cumbria.
They then had another child in 1864 called Thomas, in Plumbland, before moving to Page Bank in County Durham where they had more children.
His wife Mary Jane was also born in Whitehaven c1833.
I have them on the 1891, and 1881 census but no others prior to that.
Can anyone help me find them?
Thankyou so much,
Colleen
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GLA; Jones, Allen, Holland, Nicholas,George,Lewis
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Tati
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Hi Colleen,
1871
RG10/4961 45 30
Stockley, Page Bank Colliery, Durham
Thomas Rothery, head, 37, Coal miner, b. Cumberland Whitehaven
Mary J, wife, 38, b. do.
Isaac?, son, 15, Coal miner, b. do.
John, son, 11, Coal miner, b. do.
Thomas, son, 7, scholar, b. Cumberland Plumbland?
Ann, dau, 1, b. Durham Oakenshaw
Hugh Casey, boarder, mar, 36, Labourer Cinder (something), b. Ireland
Patrick Casey, boarder, s, 26, ditto, b. Ireland
Michael Mullan, boarder, unm, 30, Lab Mason, b. do.
Tanja 
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Tati
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1861
RG9/3948 63 37 & 38
St Bees Whitehaven, Cumberland
89 (can't read - looks like Cellar  ) George Street
Thomas Rothery, head, 27, Coal miner, b. Whitehaven
Jane, wife, 27, b. Ireland Downpatrick
Isaac, son, 5, b. Cumberland Whitehaven
John, son, 1, b. do.
Tanja
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adicol
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Thankyou for that, I found the 1861 census info but wasnt sure if it was them because of wife, one says Mary Jane from Cumberland the other is Jane from Ireland.
Maybe the info was wrong or he remarried.
Can he be seen in the 1851 census?
Thanks
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and 1851 
HO107/2436 614 49
Whitehaven, Cumberland
Church Street
Isaac Rotheray, head, 76, Tallow Chandler Pauper, b. Whitehaven
Ann, wife, 66, b. Middlesex London
Mary, dau, unm, 26, b. Northamptonshire North Shields
Jane, dau, unm, 22, b. do.
Thos, son, 17, Coal miner, b. Cumberland Whitehaven
Tanja
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adicol
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Thankyou so much for that..can i ask what Tallow Chandler Pauper is all about lol.
I know what a pauper is but what does Tallow Chandler mean
Thanks
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adicol
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Amazing!
A pauper who made and sold candles made from animal fats....nice!
Thanks for that
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kena
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Hi Colleen, have found these details on the IGI of what looks like Issac's parents and siblings. Issac Rothery baptised 6 October 1774, St Nicholas, Whitehaven, parents Robert and Mary, also siblings, Mary baptised 12 August 1787 died 25 August 1788, Isabella baptised 7 October 1777 died 17 October 1779, Hannah baptised 29 August 1773, Robert baptised 11 April 1776, John baptised 10 July 1780, Postlethwaite baptised 18 October 1783, Sarah baptised 27 March 1779, Richard baptised 26 December 1781 and Daniel baptised 12 May 1771. All baptised at St Nicholas, all parents Robert and Mary.
Hope this helps
Anna
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Mullon, Fowell, Thornely, Wilding, Lowndes,Gallimore - Cheshire
Routledge, Bell, Gillesby, Armstrong, Forster, Ewart, Nixon, Kennedy,Reay,Wright,Nattrass,Little,Richardson - Cumberland
Winsborough, Hannabus, Copp, Salter, Bray, Williams, Bonney, Creedy, Matthews, Kelner - Devon
Minto, - Durham
Allaker, Fitch,Groom,Queary - Essex
Steeple, Moult, Woodcock - Lancashire
Trafford, Hambleton, Cordon, Sweetman, Goldstraw, Brough, Barton, Dawson, Sutton, Stevenson - Staffordshire
Huess - Somerset
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kena
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Hi again, have looked for a marriage for Isaac and Ann and the only one I can find anywhere is a Isaac Rothery and Ann Milroy who got married 15 October 1815 at Monkwearmouth St Peter, Durham.
Anna
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Mullon, Fowell, Thornely, Wilding, Lowndes,Gallimore - Cheshire
Routledge, Bell, Gillesby, Armstrong, Forster, Ewart, Nixon, Kennedy,Reay,Wright,Nattrass,Little,Richardson - Cumberland
Winsborough, Hannabus, Copp, Salter, Bray, Williams, Bonney, Creedy, Matthews, Kelner - Devon
Minto, - Durham
Allaker, Fitch,Groom,Queary - Essex
Steeple, Moult, Woodcock - Lancashire
Trafford, Hambleton, Cordon, Sweetman, Goldstraw, Brough, Barton, Dawson, Sutton, Stevenson - Staffordshire
Huess - Somerset
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ange
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Hi,
Here they are in 1841-
Diamond Court, Whitehaven
Isaac Rothery 60 Tallow Chandler Y
Ann 50 N
John 18 N
James 14 N
Jane 13 N
Thomas 7 Y
John 55
HO 107/177 02 Page 5
Ange 
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adicol
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Thank you so much for that, can I ask tho, what does Y and N mean lol
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ange
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It's whether born in county- Y - Yes, N - No, I - Ireland, S - Scotland & F - Foriegn Parts. The 1851 was the first census to give place of birth.
Hope this helps
Ange
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adicol
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Yes it does, thanks so much
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