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Colin Y
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Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 14:38 UTC (UK) »
Hi

Thanks for that. I havent but I did look in thepeerage.com and there is nothing there!

He was inded the second son but his father appears in 1891 (see below!) without any rank or title. is that normal?

Colin
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Edith Gent Bowskill
Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 14:41 UTC (UK) »
Course Tricia has done all the easy bits...   

Ha, ha, ha  - see you can't manage without me Tongue

Colin Y - do you think Power was her 2nd married name?

Back to the Front Grin

Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 14:45 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Colin Y on Tuesday 28 March 06 14:38 UTC (UK)
Hi

Thanks for that. I havent but I did look in thepeerage.com and there is nothing there!

He was inded the second son but his father appears in 1891 (see below!) without any rank or title. is that normal?

Colin

Hiya Colin,

I did a Find (on this Page).. no mention of the name Hayes.
Your "see below" has be baffled Angry

All the Best, Chris
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Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 14:48 UTC (UK) »
Hi Chris

The 1891 census is above as we look at it, but was below when Colin was typing!  Cheesy

kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 14:50 UTC (UK) »
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Any more you can find on the Child family would be superb. Where can we find where nahneen H Y Child was said to have been born. Her daughter says her d of b was 24 7 1892?

Any chance she died post 1969 in England/Wales when the date & place of birth should be on the death certificate as provided by the person who registered the death?

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Edith Gent Bowskill
Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 14:51 UTC (UK) »
Might be worth chasing Julian on this link. I think they do Family Research

http://www.rcseng.ac.uk/library/services

Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
Colin Y
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Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 14:54 UTC (UK) »
its on the prvious page, viz:

1891 census

Eversleigh

Julian P S Hayes,Head age 32 Surgeon Army Medical Staff  b. Kensington, London
Edith A V Hayes,wife age 24  b. Kensington, London
Philip V E Hayes ,son age 4 b. Canterbury, Kent
Claud J P Hayes,son age 3  b. India
Audry E L Hayes ,dau age 1 b. Hythe, Kent
Annie G Waters Mother in Law age 46 Widow Living on own means b. Manchester Lancs
Alice S Welman Sister Marr, age 29 b. India
Eileen V Welman Niece age 4 b. India
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Edith Gent Bowskill
Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 15:09 UTC (UK) »
Coiln Y - pay attention and answer some questions Kiss

Can you ask your cousin if she was ever known as Nellie and can you also ask for that death date which could be very important.

I have checked The GRO Army Births 1881 -1965
GRO Consular Births 1849-1965
GRO Marine Births 1837-1965 and supplements
but nothing.

It is most important to find out if she was known as Nellie.(Think I'm barking up the wrong tree here, anyway)

Cheers, Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 15:11 UTC (UK) »


You might try posting on Armed Forces - obviously an Army family .....  Roll Eyes

Annie  Smiley

Boy! Tricia's getting bossy - pay attention ........  Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue

By the way - as he was a surgeon - you might want to try

Tina Craig
Deputy Head of Library and Information Services
Royal College of Surgeons of England
35-43, Lincoln's Inn Fields
London WC2A 3PE
Tel: 0207 869 6520
Fax: 0207 405 4438


TCraig at {@}rcseng.ac.uk

He had to be certified!!

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Colin Y
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 15:14 UTC (UK) »
Hi Tricia

Did you get the racket OK?

Nahneen died in West Bromwich in 1951.

Her daughter is out at bridge at the moment so I cant get hold of her!
I will ask later.

She thought (and lets face it she has been majorly wrong in some of thee facts - that her mother was born in waterford!

Which Everlseigh is the 1891 census showing? Hampshire?

Colin
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Edith Gent Bowskill
Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 15:32 UTC (UK) »
Yes, got racket, ta.

I thought Eversleigh was the name of the house in Hythe, Kent Wink

1951 - died a bit too early for the information we want Cry

Of course she may well have been born in Ireland - that would account for the fact we can't find her

Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 15:33 UTC (UK) »
This could be him (reference to document at the National Archives, Kew, London) ........... depending upon how many Captain C J P HAYES' there were Smiley

WO 339/9784 ................. HAYES C J P, Capt (1915-1919)

WO 339 is the reference for Officers' Services WW1

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=6

Why not post a query about his WW1 service on the armed forces board - the guys on there love this type of thing .............  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,300.0.html

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Nahneen died in West Bromwich in 1951.
That's a pity Sad

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Edith Gent Bowskill
Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 15:48 UTC (UK) »
Might be worth dropping a line to these folks. Just in case she was born in Waterford

In Irish records all births marriages and deaths from 1864 - Present are available in the General Registrars office  in Dublin.

The General Register Office is located at: -
Joyce House,
8 – 11 Lombard Street,
Dublin 2
Ireland

In which case she may be on 1901 Irish census and you will have to twist someone's arm on the Irish Board to help you


tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
Colin Y
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Wdow Hayes - she wasnt?
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 15:58 UTC (UK) »
Tricia

The 1891 shows her husband. The 1901 doesnt but shows her youngest child under a year old. there is no mention of her being a widow, in deed it says she is married.

I will check the military sites but he must have been living elsewhere or on service.

Any ideas?

I'd also like to trace the Hayes family ack a bit if possible. Can you help at all?


Your help has been ACE!

Thanks

Colin
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PENTLAND in Warks/Worcs/Staffs, IRL: Arm & Down. NZ post 1884 and SCO pre 1800. ORKNEY earlier
COLLERIN aka COLLINS GALLAGHER and COX [RC] Highgate, Small Heath, Birmingham 1840-, IRL (?) earlier
FRYER/FRIAR Ulster SCO
BROOKES in  WARKS/WORCS Moseley, RA
WRIGHT Northants
JENNER/LASCELLES ENG AUS
CHILD almost anywhere
MURLY/MURLEY Som & Dors NZ Brazil
READER & ROGERS Derby & Bucks, RODGERS Derby
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Edith Gent Bowskill
Re: Message for COLIN Y
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 17:11 UTC (UK) »
I assumed she is still married in 1901 and the husband is awaydoing Army Surgeon things.  I'll have a look to see if I can find when he died.

I did look for the family but couldn't spot them further back than 1891 It would be nice to know if any of the others also checked because many heads are better than one. Expect they are in the Army somewhere or I missed them. If they don't surface you will need to send for Julian's birth cert(details given earlier)and that will show his parents and we can then have another look.

Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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