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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
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Hi, Colin - I am posting your message here in case anyone else can add to it - you never know
I wonder if you could find a mo to help?
I am trying to find anything I can about the origins of Claude Hayes, the first husband of my geat Uncles wife, who died in 1916 on the Somme.
She was Nahneen Yvonne POWER and was born 24 July 1892 but we have no idea where.
He was Claude Julian Patrick HAYES and they wed in 1914 in a civil ceremony somewhere in London and then in Paris at Notre Dame.
I found his burial at Bray Military Cemetery in France. He was in the 1st Batallion the Royal Fusiliers.
We think his 'style' was Captain the Hon C J P Hayes but can find nothing more about him.
My 83 year old cousin who would have been his step daughter believes there is an Irish connection.
Could you please do a look up in the 1901 Census to see if he was here, perhaps at school then. I estimate he would be between 8 and 14?
Thanks in anticipation
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Connection appears to be Indian, not Irish at moment
I suspect this is him in 1901 and judging by the wife's first name suspect she was also born abroad. Cannot trace a birth registration over here for her
1901 census
16 Merton Hall Road Wimbledon
Edith A V Hayes,Head age 35, Married, Living on own means b. Notting Hill, London
P V E Hayes,son age 14 b. Canterbury, Kent,
C J Patrick Hayes,son age 13 b. Kurracher, India
Audrey E L Hayes dau age 11 b. Hythe, Kent
Aylmer T D S Hayes,son age 9 months b. Wimbledon, Surrey
Margaret E Lee ,servant age 35 Nurse b. S Wales, Glamorgan, Wales
Emily E Bluck,servant age 20 Cook b. Leatherhead, Surrey
Rosina Bluck,servant age 15 Housemaid b. Leatherhead, Surrey
RG13/660 Kingston Wimbledon
Folio: 42
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
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Hope you don' mind if I answer this way. It is easier to add to this thread compared to seperate messages.
If you now add a reply you will receive any future answers.
I'll see what else I can find on this family
Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
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1891 census
Eversleigh
Julian P S Hayes,Head age 32 Surgeon Army Medical Staff b. Kensington, London
Edith A V Hayes,wife age 24 b. Kensington, London
Philip V E Hayes ,son age 4 b. Canterbury, Kent
Claud J P Hayes,son age 3 b. India
Audry E L Hayes ,dau age 1 b. Hythe, Kent
Annie G Waters Mother in Law age 46 Widow Living on own means b. Manchester Lancs
Alice S Welman Sister Marr, age 29 b. India
Eileen V Welman Niece age 4 b. India
& 3 servants
RG12/753 Elham Hythe
Folio: 88
Page: 34
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
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Julian Philip Swindell Hayes
Birth registered qrt ending Sep 1859
Westminster St Margaret
Volume: 1a
Page: 28_
Last digit could be a 1 but is difficult to read
Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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meles
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I live a few hundred yards from Merton Hall Road if you need a photo!
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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk Harrison: London; Pollock Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk Rogers: London; Bartlett: London Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Arranroots
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I can't find a marriage for anyone POWER(S) to HAYES in 1914 - will try 1913.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
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STOP PRESS
Claude J P Hayes
Marriage qrt ending September 1914
Kensington
1a
455
But Bride's surname is CHILDS
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
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There is a Nahaman Childs b 1854 as Head of a family in 1901 but no daughter as yet, This appears to be a male name and is written as Main in 1891
Needs investigation 
Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
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Edith, is a widow?
Did you miss 1891 entry??
(See the Troops are out) 
Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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Arranroots
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Nahneen H Y CHILD matches the marriage ref above
Is that Colin leading us up a gumtree?? 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
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Nope, but the 83 year old cousin is in for a shock!!
Can I leave it with you, Arranroots - have to rush off to shops to collect very important Badminton Racket for son
Hope to see lots of results on return
Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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Arranroots
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I am not sure where to look next, to be honest!
I would guess that Nahneen was born abroad, based on the foreign sounding name & the association with India in the HAYES family. and the fact that she doesn't seem to be on the censuses (no Nahneen anywhere any time).
Course Tricia has done all the easy bits...
Will keep trying though.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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Colin Y
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Uncle Fred - England XI 1908 - POW Berlin 1914-19
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I started with Powers and Hayes! Now thanks to you all i have Hayes, Child, Waters, Swindell probably as well!
Any more you can find on the Child family would be superb. Where can we find where nahneen H Y Child was said to have been born. Her daughter says her d of b was 24 7 1892?
Colin
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YARWOOD in Warks/Ches/Staffs/Salop/Worcs but also in London - Northants, Lincs and adj counties.
PENTLAND in Warks/Worcs/Staffs, IRL: Arm & Down. NZ post 1884 and SCO pre 1800. ORKNEY earlier
COLLERIN aka COLLINS GALLAGHER and COX [RC] Highgate, Small Heath, Birmingham 1840-, IRL (?) earlier
FRYER/FRIAR Ulster SCO
BROOKES in WARKS/WORCS Moseley, RA
WRIGHT Northants
JENNER/LASCELLES ENG AUS
CHILD almost anywhere
MURLY/MURLEY Som & Dors NZ Brazil
READER & ROGERS Derby & Bucks, RODGERS Derby
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Christopher
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Hiya Tricia,
Captain the Hon C J P Hayes..the title The Honourable is used as a courtesy title for the children of Barons and Viscounts and the younger sons of Earls. Have you been looking in Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, Burke's Peerage and Gentry or Who's Who for more information 
All the Best, Chris
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