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Re: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 11:29 BST (UK) »


My closest Jones connection is a third cousin, but my spouse has scores of Jones connections past & present in the region of Wrexham, North Wales.    Gosh there is even a Jones marrying a Jones (from different branches). 




 
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Some from that area too  Shocked

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Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 11:33 BST (UK) »

3 of my 4 grandparents were Williams, but as far as great grandmothers go, I've got: Jones, Davies Williams and Wynne.

Going back another generation is interesting:
Molineux, Turnor, Rees, Williams, Williams, Jones, Jones, Jones.

Despite the names of the first 2, all born in Wales.

And that is a very neat flag with the red, white & green.
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Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 11:48 BST (UK) »

Three out of four.... my Father was illegitimate and no way of knowing who his father was so three it will stay  Wink

Steph.

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My grandmother didn't know who her parents were. She was brought up by her 'grandparents' and her 'aunt' and there was no birth certificate (from what I can see anyway).

If and when I get to the bottom of this mystery there will be 4 but at the moment only 3 Cry Have only gone back that far on 1 family at the moment.
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 14:23 BST (UK) »

I'd like to honour my four great-grandmothers: Elizabeth Patricia Cameron, born in Victoria, Australia; Caroline Martin, born in London, England; Camilla Denham, born in Somerset, England; Annie Eliza Hulle, born in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.  All strong and courageous women.  Camilla sailed the world with her master mariner husband in his sailing barque, although she hated the sea; Annie came of convict ancestors (on her mother's side) who had made good.  Elizabeth and Caroline lived pioneering and tough lives in remote parts of Australia in the fairly early days of white settlement.

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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 14:44 BST (UK) »

3 have been pretty easy, but the 4th arrgh, my grandfather was illigimate so only have her name or should that be names to go on, each reference there is to her she has a differant name, Elizabeth, Lillie, Lily, Lydia.

The names are Beer (of Devon stock), Blight, Garrow, Williams

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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 14:52 BST (UK) »

Actually now I come to think of it, my Great Grandmothers lived interesting lives.

My Turvey Great Grandmother from what I understand came from a reasonably poor background and her husband from what I gather didnt have a very stable job.  My Woodhead Great Grandmother's father was on a census at age 12 as a coal miner and died in his 40s before she married.  My Shackleton Great Grandmother's father commited suicide.  My Street Great Grandmother's mother's father died before her mother was born so her grandmother was a widow while she was pregnant.  He died at 38 by heart disease - until then I had always assumed it was a disease older people got.

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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 14:53 BST (UK) »

Was lucky with the great-grandmothers, I knew one of them personally and had enough memories from mums and nans for the others

Jessie May Pettit 1901-2001 - 100 years!
Edith Mildred Loveday
Evelyn Ivy Tunnage
Florence Lili Hitchings

I've found that whenever things get tough, I think about all the stuff that my ancestors had to go through - it always makes me feel better!

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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 14:56 BST (UK) »

Didn't give their first names before - got a bit carried a way by the Jones twins Smiley

They were/are:

Elizabeth Stokes - had one illegit and 11 others
Ellen Jones - had 4 . First one a little early
Martha Jones - had 2 (one the day after her marriage)
Margaret Wilson - had 2 illegit

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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 15:23 BST (UK) »

Yes I better give them proper names:
Lydia (Lily, Lillie or Elizabeth) Williams : had my grand father in a workhouse when she was about 16. She smoked a clay pipe.
Annie (Elizabeth Ann) Beer : was a concert pianist (and Freddy's mum). She had three religions during her life.
Kate (Catherine) Garrow : born in Durham of Scottish parents, she was deaf, excitable and an alcoholic.
Priscilla Blight: Always regretted having to sell a sheep skin rug that she was given as a wedding present during the 1920s mining strikes to feed her children.

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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 17:23 BST (UK) »

Sharon

Yet another coincidence - left hands, coal mining, both  a bit of the rebel about us,  now grandfathers born in workhouses....

Are we related Shocked Shocked Shocked

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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 18:11 BST (UK) »

Shocking holy saints  Shocked

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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 18:53 BST (UK) »

My 4 had very contrasting lives:

Mary Ann Reeves: Known as Flo or Florrie.  Born in Walworth, South London to a working-class family. Possible gypsy blood in there, proving very hard to trace. Worked for a printer before marriage, married a bricklayer, had 3 kids and was really rather plain according to the photos.

Mabel Gertrude Eldred: Born in Essex, daughter of the village blacksmith. Worked as a domestic cook before marriage to a seaman who later worked for Barclays Bank. Had one daughter 9 months after the wedding but was never able to have any more. Spent her last years in Kent being a doting grandmother to my father.

Winifred Moore: Born and raised in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, one of six daughters of an affluent family who enjoyed what was by all accounts an idyllic upbringing. Married a wealthy manufacturer, had 4 kids, was heartbroken when her eldest son (my grandfather) was killed in WW2, lived to 90-something and never drank a drop.

Mary Winifred Pierce: Known as Molly.  Born in South Dakota of a Scots-American mother and English father. The family moved to Mexico and then Bolivia; she married an English missionary in Paraguay and they had two daughters in Argentina. Died in her early 40s of heart weakness caused by childhood diphtheria.

I wish I could get them all in a room to tell me their stories!

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Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 19:09 BST (UK) »

Mary Winifred Pierce sounds fascinating, I'm sure she had many stories for such a short life.

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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 19:31 BST (UK) »

My 4 great grandmothers:

Annie James from Llanwydellan, Montgomeryshire

Florence Matilda Owen from Newtown, Montgomeryshire

Phoebe Jones from Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire

Jane Mills from Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire


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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 20:05 BST (UK) »

Jan -  Very much a Powys ancestry for a Shropshire lass Smiley

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