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Have you traced each of the four back a generation
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Topic: Four Trees -Our Great Grandmothers (Read 28022 times)
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MarieC
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Posts: 3304
In Queensland, Oz
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I'd like to honour my four great-grandmothers: Elizabeth Patricia Cameron, born in Victoria, Australia; Caroline Martin, born in London, England; Camilla Denham, born in Somerset, England; Annie Eliza Hulle, born in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. All strong and courageous women. Camilla sailed the world with her master mariner husband in his sailing barque, although she hated the sea; Annie came of convict ancestors (on her mother's side) who had made good. Elizabeth and Caroline lived pioneering and tough lives in remote parts of Australia in the fairly early days of white settlement.
MarieC
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Martins in London and Wales, Lockwoods in Yorkshire, Hartleys in London, Lichfield and Brighton, Hubands and Smiths in Ireland, Bentleys in London and Yorkshire, Denhams in Somerset, Scoles in London, Meyers in London, Cooks in Northumberland
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scrattletrap
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3 have been pretty easy, but the 4th arrgh, my grandfather was illigimate so only have her name or should that be names to go on, each reference there is to her she has a differant name, Elizabeth, Lillie, Lily, Lydia.
The names are Beer (of Devon stock), Blight, Garrow, Williams
Sharon
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Comosus
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Actually now I come to think of it, my Great Grandmothers lived interesting lives.
My Turvey Great Grandmother from what I understand came from a reasonably poor background and her husband from what I gather didnt have a very stable job. My Woodhead Great Grandmother's father was on a census at age 12 as a coal miner and died in his 40s before she married. My Shackleton Great Grandmother's father commited suicide. My Street Great Grandmother's mother's father died before her mother was born so her grandmother was a widow while she was pregnant. He died at 38 by heart disease - until then I had always assumed it was a disease older people got.
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Leeds - HOLMES (also at Boston Spa, Thorp Arch), SCHOLEY/SCOREY/SCHORAH (also at Stanley, Wakefield), TURVEY (also at Birmingham), WARD, WHITE, WOODHEAD (also at Halton, Whitkirk, Templenewsam). Dewsbury - CRAWSHAW, GLEDHILL, SPEIGHT Great Horton - RAMSDEN, SHACKLETON, WOOLER Woolsthorpe by Belvoir - SMITH Barrowby and South Stoke, Lincolnshire - PARKER Derby and Newhall - STREET Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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scrattletrap
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Posts: 1667
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Yes I better give them proper names:
Lydia (Lily, Lillie or Elizabeth) Williams : had my grand father in a workhouse when she was about 16. She smoked a clay pipe.
Annie (Elizabeth Ann) Beer : was a concert pianist (and Freddy's mum). She had three religions during her life.
Kate (Catherine) Garrow : born in Durham of Scottish parents, she was deaf, excitable and an alcoholic.
Priscilla Blight: Always regretted having to sell a sheep skin rug that she was given as a wedding present during the 1920s mining strikes to feed her children.
Sharon
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scrattletrap
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Posts: 1667
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Shocking holy saints 
Sharon
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avm228
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Posts: 5154
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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My 4 had very contrasting lives:
Mary Ann Reeves: Known as Flo or Florrie. Born in Walworth, South London to a working-class family. Possible gypsy blood in there, proving very hard to trace. Worked for a printer before marriage, married a bricklayer, had 3 kids and was really rather plain according to the photos.
Mabel Gertrude Eldred: Born in Essex, daughter of the village blacksmith. Worked as a domestic cook before marriage to a seaman who later worked for Barclays Bank. Had one daughter 9 months after the wedding but was never able to have any more. Spent her last years in Kent being a doting grandmother to my father.
Winifred Moore: Born and raised in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, one of six daughters of an affluent family who enjoyed what was by all accounts an idyllic upbringing. Married a wealthy manufacturer, had 4 kids, was heartbroken when her eldest son (my grandfather) was killed in WW2, lived to 90-something and never drank a drop.
Mary Winifred Pierce: Known as Molly. Born in South Dakota of a Scots-American mother and English father. The family moved to Mexico and then Bolivia; she married an English missionary in Paraguay and they had two daughters in Argentina. Died in her early 40s of heart weakness caused by childhood diphtheria.
I wish I could get them all in a room to tell me their stories!
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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scrattletrap
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Mary Winifred Pierce sounds fascinating, I'm sure she had many stories for such a short life.
Sharon
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Lloydy
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My 4 great grandmothers:
Annie James from Llanwydellan, Montgomeryshire
Florence Matilda Owen from Newtown, Montgomeryshire
Phoebe Jones from Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire
Jane Mills from Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire
Jan 
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Trow, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!!
Challinor/Challenor - Shocklach, Cheshire
Betton - Worthen, Shropshire
Trow - emigrated from Wales to New Zealand
Census & BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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wotty
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Four great grandmothers
Mary Ann Kelly, born in Darlington of Irish parents and married an Irish man. She had 7 sons and sounds like she had a rough time. She outlived 3 of them, two of them emigrated, and of the two remaining, one was my eccentric grandfather and the other was the town drunk. She lived in the front room at my grandfather's house, though my parents never saw her and she was only ever referred to as "the old woman". Lived to be 82.
Phoebe Eliza Mortimer (or Ward), born in Kentish Town, lived in Darlington and had 9 kids. Died of breast cancer at the age of 47.
Emma Matilda Hall, born and raised in the Redworth area of Co Durham, married a railwayman, had 11 children in quick succession and lived to be 74.
Alice Rowntree, a dressmaker, born and lived all her life in Shildon Co Durham. Came from a large and interesting family but only had three kids of her own. Lived to be 77.
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Meehan - Co Durham, Ireland, USA and Canada
Hopps - Co Durham and N. Yks
Ward, Mortimer, Littleboy - Norfolk
Angus - Co Durham
Pyle - Co Durham and Northumberland
Rowntree - N Yks and Co Durham
Ridley - Co Durham
Kelly - Co Durham and Ireland
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Zelley
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AS time drifts on for the great grandmothers, we often find them
as widows in an old census. So, this may be a "lighter side"
but sometimes the old great grandmothers were on the lighter side of financial stability in days of yore.
So, how did our great grandmothers cope when they were left as widows due to death by accident or sickness of the
great grandfathers?
WW I, would have left many a young bride alone or with small children. Did they remain a widow or remarry. Did they ever
become grandmothers and great granmothers? Of course many did and some of the story tellers of today are able to cast light on the dark days of the great grandmothers of yesterday.
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Zelley, Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent, Devon
North Wales
The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations
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moscan
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Posts: 1308
The next generation
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Three out of the four from me are:
Sarah Ann Busby from Oxfordshire, 1852 - after 1901 census
Mary Jemima Freear from Worcs 1855 - not sure
Mary McMahon born 1861 to 1942 affectionally known as the Mimmie... a very strong woman loved and feared by all ....
missing the one I really would love to find my grandmothers Mam... no idea at all there...
ah well it keeps me looking...
Best wishes
Mo
Pic is of Sarah Ann Busby...
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All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright
Researching: - Freear, Walker, Aston, Scanlan, Courtney, Lowth, O’Sulivan, McDonnell, Condon, McMahon, McKay, Brock, Gourlay, Busby
Locations: - March in Cambridgeshire, Banbury in Oxfordshire, Mileham in Norfolk, Worcester, Evesham, Claines in Worcestershire, Birmingham. Dublin, Cork, Fermanagh in Ireland. Glasgow, Stirling in Scotland
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Dave Francis
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Cornelius Fisk Goodwin (1880-1961)
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My four ....
Ada MAYOSS - b. 1874 in Kentish Town, London / d. 1952 in Hillingdon
12 children! Outlived her husband, Richard BLACKMAN, by 19 years
Jessie Rosena Annie BARLTROP - b. 1885 in Hayes, Middlesex / d. 1967 in Southall
1 child - my grandmother. Outlived her husband, Cornelius Fisk GOODWIN, by 6 years
Mary Ann LANWORN - b. 1870 in Llanwonno, Glamorgan / d. Unknown
Was a school assistant before her marriage to Edward FRANCIS in 1899. 9 or 10 children
Annie Marie GILMORE - b. 1878 in Great Warley, Essex / d. 1960 in Stratford, London
Was the daughter of an Irishman, Daniel Gilmore, who served in the Royal Scots.
Outlived her husband by 19 years. 4 children, all daughters.
I've managed to trace back the ancestry of three of them by several generations.
Annie father is, however, a problem for obvious reasons!
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSurnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast |
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Emmeline
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Emma Louisa Tricker (1885-1958)
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My 4 Gt.Grandma's - all born in London were: -
Alice Annie RUST - one of 7 sisters and 1 son.
Anna (Annie) MOSS
Emma MIDDLETON
Susanna HOCKEY
I knew only Alice RUST when a small child in London - she would dandle me on her knee and recite the alphabet backwards. I have one photo of us together which I treasure.
Attached is a photo of her on her wedding day - 1881.
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Zelley
RootsChat Veteran
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Hi Zelley - my Beers are from Whitstable I'm afraid, have not found any from Devon as yet but you never know.... I'll keep you in mind if I find any.
Steph.
I don't think James Beer was from Devon, he married a Devon lass in South London area, not sure where James hailed from.
But post WW I or II they lived in Kent.
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Zelley, Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent, Devon
North Wales
The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations
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