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Four Trees - Our Great Grandfathers
« on: Tuesday 28 March 06 19:35 BST (UK) »

My four trees include:  KYNE, PHILLIPS, WOODS and ZELLEY.

It is unteresting, but tracing the family history of the great - grandfathers is easier than tracing the great - grandmothers.
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Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations
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Re: Four Trees - Our Great Grandfathers
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 23:40 BST (UK) »

True - but when one parent is illegitimate and the fathers name is not on the original birth certificate - you cannot get past 3 gt grandfathers - no matter how hard you try.  Roll Eyes

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Re: Four Trees - Our Great Grandfathers
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 04:06 BST (UK) »

True - but when one parent is illegitimate and the fathers name is not on the original birth certificate - you cannot get past 3 gt grandfathers - no matter how hard you try.  Roll Eyes

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You may never find him and all your lost distant cousins, but somewhere they are out there.  But, without the road map you
remain lost running in circles unable to see a road marker that would lead you to a fresh tree to which you belong.
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Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations
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Re: Four Trees - Our Great Grandfathers
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 14:32 BST (UK) »

I'd like to honour my four great-grandfathers:

William Justin Beauchamp Cameron, who came to Australia from Ireland as a fourteen year old boy, without his parents and family, lived an adventurous pioneering life, and made good though with a number of setbacks;

Rev. Edmund Huband-Smith, born in Ireland, ordained in Lichfield England as a Church of England priest, came to Australia and ministered for thirty years in a remote, small settlement called Jerrys Plains in New South Wales;

Thomas Hood Bentley, master mariner, who rose from humble and impoverished beginnings in the East End of London, lived in Hong Kong and Taiwan, sailed his own barque around the world for four years, and finally became a marine surveyor in Sydney, NSW;

Thomas Murray Hall, born in New South Wales, became an accountant and a Member of the Legislative Council in Queensland (the upper house of Queensland which was abolished by a Labor government early in the 20th century).

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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 15:41 BST (UK) »

I have three official and one unofficial.

Jeremiah Walters: Known as George Bernard for some reason served in the Army for almost 15 years.
John Pearson: A miners union official back in the 1920s
Thomas Jewell: A miner and bare fist fighter (for a bit of extra cash)

Thomas Arthur Slater: Married my great grandmother when my grand father was 5 and was always known as Dad to him, he hated unions.

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Re: Four Trees - Our Great Grandfathers
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 15:48 BST (UK) »

True - but when one parent is illegitimate and the fathers name is not on the original birth certificate - you cannot get past 3 gt grandfathers - no matter how hard you try.  Roll Eyes

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Agree and I actually prefer tracing maternal lines Smiley

I have - to go with my 4 great grannies:

Henry Roberts
Thomas Mates
James Parry
A N Other

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Re: Four Trees - Our Great Grandfathers
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 19:33 BST (UK) »

My 4 Great Grandfathers:

John Thomas Jones from Welshpool, Montgomeryshire

James Jones from Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire

John Lewis from Berrington, Shropshire

Charles Price Challinor from Newtown, Montgomeryshire


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Re: Four Trees - Our Great Grandfathers
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 19:43 BST (UK) »

I can only name 3 great-grandfathers  Sad

Joseph Gandley from Birmingham, England
Thomas R. Shorter from Chertsey, England
John W. Bowman - Fenelon Falls, Ontario
Whyte?

I can't find my grandfather's birth so I'm stuck.  I wish I could have 5 mins alone with him!

I'm with Gadget though on the maternal lines, I would hope someone 100 years from now thought I was important and wanted to know about my family instead of just hubbys.

Elizabeth Ball born Birmingham England
Susan Dawkins born Co. Cork, Ireland
Mary Heffernan born Guelph, Ontario
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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham
Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: Four Trees - Our Great Grandfathers
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 20:00 BST (UK) »

My 4 Great Grandfathers:

John Thomas Jones from Welshpool, Montgomeryshire

James Jones from Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire
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Perhaps your two grt grandfather Jones could link up with my two grt grandmother Jones and we could have a quartet Grin

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Re: Four Trees - Our Great Grandfathers
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 21:11 BST (UK) »

I have four :

Martin Meehan, a builder, from Co Mayo, Ireland
Frederick Stanley Hopps an ironworker, from Darlington, Co Durham
William Slaser Pyle, a joiner, from Shildon, Co Durham
John Robert Angus,  a railwayman, from Shildon, Co Durham.

The Darlington and Shildon lines have been easy to follow, Martin Meehan remains a bit of a mystery!

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Hopps -  Co Durham and N. Yks
Ward, Mortimer, Littleboy - Norfolk
Angus -  Co Durham
Pyle -  Co Durham and Northumberland
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Ridley - Co Durham
Kelly -  Co Durham and Ireland
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Re: Four Trees - Our Great Grandfathers
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 21:15 BST (UK) »

Mine are -

Henry Smith, a Prestonian and father of three who worked hard all his life who married
Ethel Harling, a Prestonian

James Francis Maynard - a Londoner whom I know little about who married
Elizabeth Veronica Clegg, a Prestonian woman with a broad Lancashire accent

James Marshall McKenna - a native of Leyland who died so young at the age of 49 from bronchitis in the 1950's who married
Beatrice Scowcroft, who was killed by a drunk driver in the 1960's

Lewin Henry Ricketts - a Wiganer known as Henry who I know little about who married
Elizabeth Moxham, who died very young from a kidney disease that has claimed many of my female relatives in my maternal line. I mistook her for Lewin's second wife, Anne
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Re: Four Trees - Our Great Grandfathers
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 21:23 BST (UK) »

I can only locate three because my grandfather didn't exist until his marriage in 1907 therefore no gt.grandad!

Thomas Dinmore from Camberwell a rope maker
George James Tylor from Camberwell a gen. labourer
Henry Collyer from Surrey a bricklayers labourer

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Richards & Roberts,  in Carmarthen & Glam.
Bowen & Morgans in Carm.
Walters & Mort in Glam.
Dinmore, in SE London (prev.Surrey & Kent), Lowestoft & Yorks.
Collier/Collyer, Tyler & Welch in SE London(prev.Surrey)

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 21:28 BST (UK) »

My Four Great Grandfathers are....


Henry Walker - 1845 to some time after 1901 census (cannot find his death) born Burntwood, Staffs.. a nail forger by trade

Frederick James Aston - 1853 to?Huh?? Born Evesham died Worcester I suspect..  a Band Sawyer by trade

John Condon born c 1860 Cork ( if family stories are true) , died 1912 a stone mason famous for his hand hewn Celtic Crosses and for his work on the Library of Congress in Washington DC.

James McDonnell  have NO info on this chap at all... except born Fermanagh a farmer I believe and obviously was not a happy bunny when his daughter married my grandfather !!!!!

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Re: Four Trees - Our Great Grandfathers
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 21:32 BST (UK) »

My 4

Robert Carver a wheelwright from Wrestlingworth, Bedfordshire
Frederick Farr a straw hat worker from Luton Bedfordshire
Albert Love Griffin a GWR passenger guard from Colyford, Devon
and James Allsop a jack of all trades from Wirksworth Derbyshire

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buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 29 March 06 22:09 BST (UK) »

My 8 are-

John William Russell, a gardener from White Waltham in Berks and Beatrice Jones from Great Marlow in Bucks.

John Stubbs, a coachman from Mucklestone in Shrops and Jane Shepherd from Powick in Worcs.

Edward Gibson, a circus ringmaster cum carpet weaver (!) from Liversedge in West Yorkshire and Sarah Ann France from Huddersfield.

John Patchett, a rullyman from Bassingham in Lincolnshire and Charlotte Bishop from Keyingham in E Yorks.

I was surprised when I got to this point just how far flung my great grandparents were. I expected them to be confined to East Yorks where my mum came from and Bucks where my dad originated. Just shows how little I knew!

I agree with you, Gadget - I love following the maternal lines and get really frustrated when the parish record entries only give the mother's first name or, even worse, give only the father's name. Did the clerks think the men did the giving birth or what?!   Angry

I've just found a couple of wills where the man leaves his soon to be widow this that and the other but only as long as she doesn't remarry. If she does, well s-d her!!  Angry
We've come a long way since then - thank god!   Grin

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Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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