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Re: Help and advice - family trees on websites
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 07 September 06 21:31 BST (UK) »

I'll put it up without the tail  Cheesy

Tomorrow - OK - Julian provides the champers this time.

Gadget - it is really ever so pretty, honest  Wink

PS a thumb nail tree would be loverly Bob - could we commision someone to do a template  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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« Reply #46 on: Thursday 07 September 06 21:38 BST (UK) »

I don't ever boast - just honest that's all I'm WYSIWYG

WYSIWYG - Now there's a good handle for a message board!

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Re: Help and advice - family trees on websites
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 07 September 06 21:38 BST (UK) »

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PS a thumb nail tree would be loverly Bob - could we commision someone to do a template

Having said that, in "Oh, I wish ..."  Tongue Tongue kind of way, I just thought of an answer

Use a graphics program to make the "screen-size" thumbnail.
In HTML it is possible to mark certain areas of a graphic as links, so you just go to the part you want and click on it  Grin

An example of this is fancy menu buttons: you make one graphic image of all the buttons and use mapping to "separate" the individual buttons.

The downside is that a large graphic takes a while to load

So if if anyone has a better idea, let's hear it  Smiley

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« Reply #48 on: Thursday 07 September 06 21:45 BST (UK) »

I've just had a poss idea   Cheesy

Just make a large table with the whole tree on - each person in small cells. Then hot links on each cell to a specific three generation table which links to other 3 gen tables as  pop-ups maybe  Wink

A hell of a lot of programming but  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

WYSIWYG - my new name  Smiley
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« Reply #49 on: Thursday 07 September 06 21:51 BST (UK) »

Well you have a go at it then WYSIWYG Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink

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Re: Help and advice - family trees on websites
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 07 September 06 22:07 BST (UK) »

Sounds good  Smiley

Call the large table the overview.

There is a program called Adam that actually makes HTML charts, but they all have the some name. So if you (or 'one' !) spent time making the individual 3-g charts, and renaming them, then they coul be linked to from the overview

here's an example: 
http://tutorial.rootschat.net/adam/baumq.htm  : just the tree
http://tutorial.rootschat.net/adam/index.htm : for the whole nine yards

It looks fine in IE  Smiley  but lousy in Firefox  Sad

Bob

Download adam from http://www.use-adam.de/ (german site, but the 'download' button is translated as 'download'  Grin and the program can be installed in english)
 
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« Reply #51 on: Thursday 07 September 06 22:12 BST (UK) »

I'll have a look in Opera and Netscape in a mo - anyone got an Apple?

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« Reply #52 on: Thursday 07 September 06 22:13 BST (UK) »

Opera is lousy --  sorry, I'll amend that -- the display of the "adam" file in opera is lousy, too  Sad
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« Reply #53 on: Thursday 07 September 06 22:20 BST (UK) »

Looks awful in all of them - I didn't look at IE yet. Mainly use FF  Smiley

Why  am I included in the hypothetical tree  Huh Huh Huh

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« Reply #54 on: Thursday 07 September 06 22:30 BST (UK) »

Try again  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

I changed the border=1 to border=0 in the top table.
It now means that the individuals aren't 'boxed', but it looks a lot better  Grin Grin

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« Reply #55 on: Thursday 07 September 06 22:34 BST (UK) »

Think it's time.

Will have a look tomorrow  Smiley

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« Reply #56 on: Thursday 07 September 06 22:36 BST (UK) »

The bad news is that the program is shareware, costs 30 €

But it's given me a few ideas of how I could do something similar . . . . . .

up the apples and pears for me too, . . work (again) tomorrow

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« Reply #57 on: Saturday 09 December 06 19:06 GMT (UK) »

Work in Progress:

When I converted my "excel trees" (see reply #25, this topic) to HTML I found that they were horribly bloated - 108 KB and they looked horrible.
Printing the tables and scanning them produced JPEG files between 50 - 95 KB for each tree.

So I then took the Excel tables as templates and started writing each one in HTML and CSS.

It took the best part of a day to do the first one, but the second one was a lot quicker, once I'd got into the swing  (routine !) of it.
The resulting HTML page was about 10 KB  Roll Eyes so I then added a few "bells & whistles"

I now have links on the tables so I can see just the direct lines, direct lines with siblings, and the extended family (i.e. including siblings's families.)
(tip: do the full 'extended family' first, and then make two copies - 'direct lines', 'with siblings' - and then delete the unneeded bits in each file.)

The results for the Margulies trees can be seen at
http://boco.rootschat.net/fam-mar-tree-xf.php

Still got another three to do, then I might try combining them into one tree for the whole family (just for fun - of course  Grin Grin )

Bob
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« Reply #58 on: Friday 05 January 07 13:41 GMT (UK) »

I have now converted all five family trees to HTML.  My back aches and my fingers ache, but I'm pleased with the results.

I've also added (yet) another 'feature:

There was a topic on RootsChat a while ago, asking who we are, i.e. where do we come from.  I have copied the "direct lines" chart and replaced all the names with the places of birth.

So now I can see at a glance, where we come from.

The link is on each tree page (reached through the "Trees & Charts" link http://boco.rootschat.net/i-trees.php )  and is called Origins

example:  http://boco.rootschat.net/fam-col-tree-or.php

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« Reply #59 on: Friday 05 January 07 16:08 GMT (UK) »

Very nice, Bob - I like the 'origins' idea, too!  Well worth all those aching limbs!
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