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denyse
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My interests around Dudley are:
GILL, HANCOX, BUSBY/BISBY, STEVENTON, GRAINGER, HAMPTON, HEATHCOCK, PARKES, BODILY, ELLIS, TROMAN
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CHESHIRE: Boulderstone, Bracegirdle, Crewe, Cuff, Dale, Davenport, Gough, Hadfield, Harding, Jones, Lomas, Owen, Rudolph, Walley, Whitelegg, Woodcock, Worsencroft, Wright
LANCASHIRE: Armitage, Bennison, Bonney, Brierley, Butterworth, Chadwick, Fairclough, Holme, Hoyle, Keary, Robinson, Roscoe, Taylor, Winterbottom, Woodhead
SHROPSHIRE: Arrowsmith, Cooper, Crewe, Linyons, Shotton, Steventon, Walley
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jacquelineve
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Hello Denyse
Re. Ellis surname Dudley area.My maiden name is
Ellis and have found my 2xgg grandmother in the 1841
1851--1861--1881--1891--1901census for Dudley. perhaps I could be of some help.
Jacqueline.
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Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs Harts Hill: Baggot Wright Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson Derbyshire:Wilcockson Derby Belper:Spencer Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs. Hodgetts Radnorshire: Meredith Bristol Somerset: Box Census Information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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denyse
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Hi Jacqueline,
I only have one ELLIS so far & she's my 11 x great-grandmother born around 1584.
Name: Thomas Hampton
Birth: abt 1584, of Dudley
Marriage: 8 May 1610
Spouse: Elizabeth Ellis
Birth: abt 1588
Children:
1: Thomas Hampton
Christen: 30 Dec 1610, St Edmonde's, Dudley
Spouse: Ann
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2: Katherin Hampton
Christen: 1 Jun 1617, St Edmonde's, Dudley
Spouse: John Wright
Marriage: 18 Nov 1640
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3: An Hampton
Christen: 10 Apr 1619, St Edmonde's, Dudley
Death: Aug 1619
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4: Samuel Hampton
Christen: 17 Jun 1620, St Edmonde's, Dudley
Spouse 1: Elizabeth
Spouse 2: Ann
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5: John Hampton (My 10 x gt-grandfather)
Christen: 20 Oct 1626, St Edmonde's, Dudley
Spouse: Mary (My 10 x gt-grandmother)
Marriage: 1647
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Regards,
Denyse
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CHESHIRE: Boulderstone, Bracegirdle, Crewe, Cuff, Dale, Davenport, Gough, Hadfield, Harding, Jones, Lomas, Owen, Rudolph, Walley, Whitelegg, Woodcock, Worsencroft, Wright
LANCASHIRE: Armitage, Bennison, Bonney, Brierley, Butterworth, Chadwick, Fairclough, Holme, Hoyle, Keary, Robinson, Roscoe, Taylor, Winterbottom, Woodhead
SHROPSHIRE: Arrowsmith, Cooper, Crewe, Linyons, Shotton, Steventon, Walley
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Paulie
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Greetings
Do you have an Isabella TROMAN who married Jeremiah BILLINGHAM?
Paulie
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denyse
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Hi Paulie,
I don't have Jeremiah but I do have BILLINGHAMs. They're distantly related to my husband because Mary GILL was a sister of my husband's 2 x gt-grandfather.
Name:John Billingham
Birth:abt 1823Dudley Wood, near Cradley Heath
Occupation:Chainmaker
Marriage: 22 Mar 1841St Thomas C of E, Dudley
Spouse:Mary Gill
Birth:abt 1823Netherton
Christen: 8 Jun 1823St Thomas, Dudley
Father:Daniel Gill (1800->1861)
Mother:Sylvia "Selvy" Hampton (1799->1871)
Children:
1:Benjamin Billingham
Birth:abt 1843Rowley Regis
Spouse:Elizabeth Roberts
Marriage: 17 Sep 1866St Thomas C of E, Dudley
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2:James Billingham
Birth:abt 1845Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
Spouse:Sarah Matthews
Marriage: 25 Dec 1872St Thomas C of E, Dudley
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3:Joseph Billingham
Birth:abt 1846Rowley Regis
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4:Henry Billingham
Birth:23 Dec 1850Tibbets Gardens, Rowley Regis
Death:15 Jun 1940
Occupation:chainmaker
Spouse:Ruth Yarnold
Marriage: 28 May 1872St Thomas C of E, Dudley
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5:Sylvia Billingham
Birth:abt 1853Rowley Regis
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6:Selena Billingham
Birth:abt 1855Rowley Regis
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7:Alfred Billingham
Birth:abt 1858Rowley Regis
Occupation:Chainmaker
Spouse:Polly
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8:Mary Ann Billingham
Birth:abt 1862Rowley Regis
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9:John Billingham
Birth:abt 1864Rowley Regis
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CHESHIRE: Boulderstone, Bracegirdle, Crewe, Cuff, Dale, Davenport, Gough, Hadfield, Harding, Jones, Lomas, Owen, Rudolph, Walley, Whitelegg, Woodcock, Worsencroft, Wright
LANCASHIRE: Armitage, Bennison, Bonney, Brierley, Butterworth, Chadwick, Fairclough, Holme, Hoyle, Keary, Robinson, Roscoe, Taylor, Winterbottom, Woodhead
SHROPSHIRE: Arrowsmith, Cooper, Crewe, Linyons, Shotton, Steventon, Walley
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Paulie
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Hello once again Denyse
From what you tell me John would most probably be Benjamin's brother. Benjamin and two of his sons were brewers in Rowley Regis and I know Alice who was the youngest daughter of Jeremiah BILLINGHAM and Isabella TROMANS went and lived in Netherton after she was married. Her husband James LOCKWOOD was the son of Sarah Ann BILLINGHAM and Edward LOCKWOOD. Their common ancestor being John BILLINGHAM and Phebe TIBBETS. Have you seen the sight for BILLINGHAN'S of Cradley Heath?
Regards
Paulie
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carol510898
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Hi Denyse
I'm trying to find the roots of a Matthew Hancox - I have his birth certificate and he was born 17 June 1887 at 9 Dunn Street, Dudley registered in Dudley the son of Matthew Hancox, plate layer and his wife Elizabeth formerly Moore.
We know that they had an elder son James bc 1885 Hednesford and a daughter called Selina who was born 13 Jan 1891 in Dudley Union Workhouse - her father Matthew is entered as deceased occ plate layer and her mother was again given as Elizabeth formerly Moore (of Dudley) on her birth certificate. The father Matthew must have died in 1890 although I have been unable to find a death for him anywhere. Nor can I find a marriage for him and Elizabeth Moore which would give me his father's name and I cannot find a Matthew Hancox on the 1881 census.
James was living with his mother in 1901 at 3 Court House, Tower Street, Dudley - she had remarried to an Edward Green on 25 Dec 1898 in the parish church of Netherton, Dudley and her father's name was given as Stephen Moore. Matthew junior was living in an Industrial school in Dudley but there is no sign of Selina on the 1901 census.
Matthew and his older brother James had a fight one day which involved a knife and Matthew lost an eye as a result. This was probably why he ended up in an Industrial school because his widowed mother and/or new step father couldn't cope with him fighting with James. Matthew ran away from his school and walked along the railway lines to Wales. He was a carter and worked at Llandovery College for some years and then became the groundsman at Glanbrydan House - working for the Richardson family and later Canon Walker-Thomas. He married Elinor Bryant who was born in Fulham. My husband is Elinor and Matthew's grandson.
Look as I might, I cannot find any of either Matthew seniors family nor his wife Elizabeth Moore - the 1901 census gives her place of birth as Ashby-de-la-Zouch but I can find no evidence of her or her father Stephen Moore on the relevant censuses. Do you, by any chance, have this Matthew Hancox in your tree?
Regards
carol510898
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Breadman Hampshire
Cox Chalfont St Giles
Crick Northants, Bucks
Edwards West Sussex, Hampshire
Gibbard Oxon, Bucks, Northants
Hancox Dudley Worcs
Jennings Wiltshire, Hampshire
Pearce Hampshire, Berks
Smith Guist Norfolk, Bucks
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Jo New
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hi Denyse
looking thru mypaperwork, i think i have just found a Troman in it !
HARRIET WHETTON born 1827 Leicestershire, (living with her cousin William F whetton and his family in 1851, states Snalestone
married 1854, WILLIAM TROMAN, born 1823 Rowley Regis.
have not put these names ont o my tree as yet as i had no other detils for Harriet. And my direct line was down her cousins wifes side ( but you know how get carried away with all this ! LOL)
please let me know if you think there could be a link
best wishes joanne
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mezentia
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hello Denyse
I have quite a few Hamptons, Parkes, Gills, Hancocks/Hancox, and Graingers:
Family Group Record for Ann Gill
Wife: Ann Gill
Birth 1800 Dudley, Worcestershire
Death aft 1861
Husband: James Hampton
Birth 1791
Marr. 5 Jun 1814 St Thomas: Ann Gill
Father: James Hampton Mother: Mary Heathcock
1. Betsey Hampton
Birth 30 Dec 1815
2. Elijah Hampton
Birth 1817
3. James Hampton
Birth 30 Dec 1819
4. Thomas Hampton
Birth 6 Jan 1822
5. Esther Hampton
Birth 1824 Rowley Regis or Netherton
Marr. 13 Aug 1883 Bromsgrove Parish Church: James Attwood
Death Mar 1885
6. Mary Hampton
Birth 1828 Dudley, Worcestershire
Marr. 9 Feb 1851 St Thomas, Dudley, Worcestershire: Abraham Sidaway
Death aft 1881
7. Ann Hampton
Birth 1831 Dudley, Worcestershire
Death aft 1851
8. Sylvia Hampton
Birth 1834 Dudley, Worcestershire
Death aft 1851
9. John Hampton
Birth 11 Oct 1835 Dudley, Worcestershire
Death aft 1861
10. Joseph Gill Hampton
Birth 1839 Kingswinford
Death aft 1861
11. Elizabeth Hampton
Birth 1845 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
Death aft 1851
GRO for death: Dd 6c 18 age 58
Marriage notes for Esther Hampton & James Attwood:
13.8.1883 Bromsgrove Parish Church
James Attwood 50 B waggoner Dodford Joseph (dec) labourer
Esther Hampton 49 S nailer '' James (dec) collier
banns witness James & Mary Male
only James Attwood signed
Family Group Record for William Hancocks
Husband: William Hancocks/Hancox
Birth 1722
Death 1777
Wife: Hannah Grainger
Birth 1721
Marr. William Hancocks
Death 1790
1. Sylvia Hancocks
Birth 1749
Marr. 7 Jun 1767 St Thomas, Dudley: James Hampton
Death 1818
Family Group Record for James Hampton
Husband: James Hampton
Birth 1745
Death 1818
Father: James Hampton Mother: Ann Parkes
Wife: Sylvia Hancocks
Birth 1749
Marr. 7 Jun 1767 St Thomas, Dudley: James Hampton
Death 1818
Father: William Hancocks Mother: Hannah Grainger
1. James Hampton
Birth 1770
Marr. 19 Dec 1790 Pedmore: Mary Heathcock
Death 1818
Burial 6 Oct 1818 St Thomas
2. Herbert Hampton
Birth 1772
3. Ann Hampton
Birth 1773
4. Sylvia Hampton
Birth 1775
Death 1776
Burial 31 Jul 1776
5. Sylvia Hampton
Birth 1777
6. Esther Hampton
Birth 16 May 1779 St Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Marr. 12 Dec 1796 St Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England: William Round
7. Phillis Hampton
Birth 1780
8. Daniel Hampton
Birth 1785
9. Mary Hampton
Birth 1785
Birth 1787
10. Jabez Hampton
Birth 1833
Sources for James Hampton:
Name:
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index (R). (Copyright (c) 1980, 2002, data as of February 23, 2006), NAME Family History Library, ADDR 35 N West Temple Street, CONT Salt Lake City, Utah 84150
USA.
Sources for Esther Hampton:
Name:
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index (R). (Copyright (c) 1980, 2002, data as of February 23, 2006), Film #: 456350, NAME Family History Library, ADDR 35 N West Temple Street, CONT Salt Lake City,
Utah 84150 USA.
Family Group Record for Mary Heathcock
Wife: Mary Heathcock
Husband: James Hampton
Birth 1770
Marr. 19 Dec 1790 Pedmore Mary Heathcock
Death 1818
Burial 6 Oct 1818 St Thomas
Father: James Hampton Mother: Sylvia Hancocks
1. James Hampton
Birth 1791
Marr. 5 Jun 1814 St Thomas Ann Gill
2. Susannah Hampton
Birth 1793
3. Joseph Hampton
Birth 1795
4. Herbert Hampton
Birth 1797
5. Sylvia Hampton
Birth 1799 Dudley, Worcestershire
Death aft 1871
6. David Hampton
Birth 1801
7. Elijah Hampton
Birth 1803 Dudley, Worcestershire
8. Enoch Hampton
Birth 1804
9. Mary Hampton
Birth 1806
10. Joseph Hampton
Birth 1808
11. Benjamin Hampton
Birth 1809
12. Tamar Hampton
Birth 1815 Dudley, Worcestershire
13. Eli Hampton
Birth 1818
There's more ...
David
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Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.
Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.
Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex
Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.
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mezentia
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Try looking at
http://www.stephrobinson.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
There's more than a few Attwoods there!! And Hamptons, too.
I would be extremely cautious of the IGI tree for Richard Attwood unless you can independently verify its authenticity.
There was a report in the Black Country Bugle a few weeks ago claiming that all Black County Attwoods are related. However, proving it is another matter entirely. I've been trying to track down my wife's Attwood ancestors, but trying to sort out them all out when family sizes were typically 11 or 12 children with no census data to go on, and parent's names not recorded on marriage register entries is a real nightmare. That's assuming they got married. If they were chainmakers in Cradley, they're just a likely to have "jumped over the broom" 
David
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Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.
Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.
Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex
Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.
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Aulus
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The black sheep: Florence Stevenson née Hampson
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I'm interested in Steventons around the Dudley area (and Smiths - sigh - in the same area)
I have George STEVENTON (c. 1795/6 - 24/4/1869) m Ann SHAW (c. 1795/6-13/4/1868) on 24/5/1818 in Old Swinford. According to the 1841, 51 and 61 censuses, both were born in Dudley.
There was a family tradition down the Steventon-Smith line, still strongly asserted in the 1940s, that an ancestor was Lifesguardsman Shaw who fought at the Battle of Waterloo. Clearly the connection would be Ann Shaw, but what the connection is (if there is one) is unknown.
In the 1841 census (HO107; Dudley;Worcestershire; ED 34; Page: 10; ) George and Ann Steventon are living next door to a Joel Steventon and his family. Looking at the ages of George and Joel, I would guess they're brothers. Both called some of their children biblical (?) names (Noah, Gideon, Nimrod, Dorcas, Zillah) and others more "normal" names.
From the census returns I know that George and Ann Steventon had the following children:
- Ephraim (b. c. 1819, d. of typhus fever 5/1/1845 in Derby End, Dudley)
- Sarah (b. c. 1821 and so far untraced later than the 1841 census)
- Elicabeth (b. c. 1824 and so far untraced later than the 1841 census)
- Jemima (b. c. 1831 and so far untraced later than the 1841 census)
- Dorcas (b. c. 1834, married George LONGSTAFF & moved to Barrow-in-Furness mid 1880s, d. 8/10/1889
- Nimrod (b. c. 1836, d. 10/1/1858 in a lift shaft accident at the British Iron Company's Works in Rowley Regis
- Zillah, aka Priscilla, b. 25/11/1838 in Derby End, married Henry SMITH 9/6/1856 at Netherton Parish Church, like Dorcas & her family, Priscilla and her family moved to Barrow-in-Furness, but earlier - they were there by the 1871 census. They then moved to Blackpool between 1874 and 1876. She died 28 Apr 1893 (or 1892 if you believe her gravestone over the death certificate!).
Priscilla/Zillah (both her first name and her family name are slightly different every time it appears, until she marries Henry Smith - clearly clerks knew how to spell Smith) is my ancestor and link to George and Ann.
Priscilla's husband, Henry SMITH, was born in Derby End/Derby Hand, Netherton, Dudley c. 1837. He died in Blackpool, Lancs on 5th Jan 1903. At his marriage to Priscilla in 1856 and still at the time of the 1861 census he was a miner. After a period as a labourer, he became a fish and oyster dealer in Blackpool, a trade at least one of his descendants, Charlie SMITH, was still carrying out in RHO Hills department store in Blackpool in the 1950s.
I've not been able to find Henry SMITH (1837-1903) in the 1841 and 1851 censuses. In the 1861 he and his family are living in Bourn Brook, Rowley Regis. Between the birth of Emily in 1867 and the 1871 census, the family had moved up to Barrow-in-Furness. And then between the births of William (1874) and Ann (1876) the family moved to Blackpool, where a number of descendants still live.
Henry & Priscilla had 13 children:
Drucilla (known from family memory, no dates)
Dina (ditto)
Edith (ditto)
Ann (b. c. 1857 Rowley Regis)
Eliza (b. c. 1859, Old Hill, Staffs)
Henry (b. c. 1864, Old Hill, Staffs; married Annie GALL, 12/3/1888 in Blackpool, 10 weeks before their 1st child was born!)
Jemima (b. c. 1865, Barrow in Furness, m. Thomas BILSBORROW from Preston after 1881, d. 23/2/1907)
Emily (b. c. 1867 in Dudley, m. Henry Thomas STEVENSON from Hulme, Manchester 16/11/1889, d. 10/11/1924)
George Smith (b. 11/11/1871 in Dalton-in-Furness), m. Edith PARK 16/8/1893 in Blackpool)
William Smith (b. c. 1874 in Barrow-in-Furness), m. Gertrude //)
Ann Maria (b. c. 1876 in Blackpool, m. Joseph SMITH)
John (Jack) (b. c. 1878 in Blackpool, m. Florence //)
Septimus (b. 14/8/1879 in Blackpool, d. 1957 in Blackpool, where he was a well known local "character")
Someone called Septimus (known as Sep) should have been the 7th child, but that doesn't quite work out, even taking into account the other children whose names are only known from family memory/photos but whose dates are unknown. But I guess they weren't very good at counting.
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens Marylebone & Sussex: Cole London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman Bowland: Marsden, Noble Shropshire: Guest Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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