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Topic: Help with Price family Poulton cum seacomb/Bebington (Read 1180 times)
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cnerys
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Lyn,
Thanks for all your help, and yes, all these confusions add to the mystery of our ancestors which to me, so little is known about, but I'm getting there slowly! A photo would be fantastic, but I don't want you to go to any trouble. I should imagine the houses went a long time ago but I will find out one day. 
Kind Regards
Nerys
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Morris - Gwytherin/Llangernyw/Pandy Tudur
Blore - Efenechtyd/Clocaenog
Bloor - Cwm/Newmarket Wales
Price - Llangwm, Poulton cum Seacomb/Bebington
Roberts - Llanelidan - 'Pantrwth' Eyarth, Liverpool, Sheffield
Roberts - Brookhouse Denbigh
Carruthers - Dalmellington
Mulholland/Findlay - Slamannan Scotland
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celia
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Gladstone Road is a small road off Borough Road is the continuation of Poulton road. Gladstone is right next to the primary school.
Celia
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celia
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Re. P.M
Nerys I will also track them down in the directories to see if they moved around between the census.I will get back to you during the week.
Celia
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ladyholme
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Yes indeed Gladstone road is off Borough Road, which is between Poulton Road and Brighton Street in Seacombe.
As Nerys's census said Sea View, and then it said specifically Lower Bebington in the Parish of St Marks, New Ferry it cannot be the one in either Little Neston or Hoylake...both of which are rather a long way from Bebington and New Ferry's St Marks and can't be in the contention.
You are correct Celia that there is no Perry Street in Seacombe unless it has been demolished, which is possible I suppose. Palatine Road is not far from Gladstone Road as the crow flies. Could you check on your info about Perry Street being in Seacombe please Nerys?
I'll get the pics in due course..... Regards Lyn
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ladyholme
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Celia....I rather think the reason for some of Liverpool being in the Wirral A-Z is because although Liverpool is in Lancashire its address is Merseyside....Some of the Wirral is addressed as Merseyside too or at least it was. Postcodes here on the Wirral did begin with 'L', but recently it has been changed back to 'CH' which is Chester in Cheshire. Wirral was in Cheshire until the 'shake up' when we suddenly found we were called Merseyside...that was OK for towns alongside the Mersey but for people in say West Kirby it seemed rather strange when they look over the river Dee!  Lyn
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andycand
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Hi
Could the Perry St actually be Parry St? Parry St today is a short cul-de-sac that ends at the Mersey Tunnel approach but back in the early 1900's it crossed the railway line and had quite a few houses in it. It is very close to Palatine Road.
In the 1901 census the street immediately preceeding Sea View is South View. South View is one of the streets in Bromborough Pool (still there). The streets immediately after Sea View are Georges Place and Prospect Place neither of which seem to be around today.
Andy
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andycand
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Hi Celia
I've been trying to work out where Sea View was by looking at the coverage of the Enumeration District and it would appear to be off Woodhead St, New Ferry. Looking at an old map there appears to be some small streets off Woodhead St that are not named. I think these must be called South View, Sea View, Prospect Place and Georges Place. When you scroll through the census the sequence is Woodhead St, South View, Sea View, Georges Place and then Prospect Place. The Enumeration District does not extend to Bromborough Pool so that rules out that South View.
I stumbled across a topic on Rootschat from Dec 2004 called Woodhead St, New Ferry (part of which is quoted below)
does anyone out there remember woodhead st, new ferry?
i vaguely remember it, i know there were small roads that ran off it, my nan and g.gran lived in one, think it was called "seaview", i would love some info on it if poss.
there is a car park there now but it is still called woodhead st.
i remember walking down there with my nan when i was very small, and she told me there were stables there were the horses were kept, it's the back of quick save now.
Andy
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ladyholme
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Hi Nerys,
Sad news...the M53 leading to the Mersey Tunnel has shortened Gladstone Road and it only has about 10 very modern houses in it now. Parry Street is even shorter due to the same motorway. However the chances are that originally the streets around that area would have been very similar to Palatine Road. Attached are photos of Palatine Road. Regards, Lyn
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celia
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Nerys
I now have some photos to send you,can you P.M me your email.Evan though i have taken loads of photos in the seacome Poulton area.I haven't had the need to go up borough rd,that Gladstone road is off.I have to say i was very disappointed to find not a single thing remains of the original road.Even the road plate name isn't original,I cannot understand how there could have been a high numbered house like 74.Because Gladstone road is now a very small T shaped cul-De-Sac with very modern small houses.I had expected it to be much bigger,i looked around to see if the road had been longer originally but i couldn't find anyway it could have been.Because there was nowhere for it to go.So how did the road have house numbers up to the seventies.I didn't take a photo of the new houses mainly because they are very near the pavement and people might be in and may have come out because they had taken offense  Before i did that i got talking to a man in a shop and jokingly asked him where the rest of Gladstone road was I seemed to have hit his fuse about the demolition of the roads.They had found out recently that some ****** Builder want to buy some shops and make them into flats. One of his neighbors only bought one of building 3 years ago and lives above the empty shop.So not a happy man 
Celia
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celia
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Nerys
I have been delving into the Gladstone Road history,and i think that my first assumption that your Ancestor didn't actually live in number 74 is correct.I will tell you about that later when you have caught up with your replies on here.
Where Victoria road comes into the area address, i dont know.Thats a geography/history topic though
Celia
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andycand
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Hi
According to a 1911 map Gladstone Road ran from Victoria Road (the former name for Borough Road ) right through to the railway line (now the M53/Mersey Tunnel approach) .
A check of the 1901 census shows that Gladstone Road was numbered up to no 112 (which was at the railway end) and Evan Price and his family lived at 74 Gladstone Road.
Andy
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a lot of roads would i think have been for a better word 
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