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TILT/FARNHAM family in Ilford
« on: Thursday 17 July 08 18:22 BST (UK) »

In researching my TILT family, I came upon the death of Arthur Preston Tilt in Ilford in 1916, age 63.  The death certificate said he was living at 22, Vernon Gardens, Ilford, and that the informant was his son-in-law F A FARNHAM, who lived at 24 Vernon Gardens.

I found a marriage between Mary Teresa H Tilt and Francis Joseph Farnham in Richmond, Surrey in 1907.  The problem is that Mary is not a daughter of Arthur Preston Tilt that I was aware of. 

Arthur, who was an artist, sculptor and photographer, was married to Annie Maud, and had two daughters:  Cora Tilt, who was born about 1882 in Brixton, and Katie, born about 1884 in Paris. 

My problem is:  who was Mary's mother?  I know that Arthur must have had a falling-out with his own mother, as in a codicil to her will written in 1886, Mrs Tilt senior revoked the bequest of an oil-painting of his father to Arthur, and left it instead to a daughter.

In the 1901 census, Arthur and Annie Maud, together with daughters Cora and Katie, are living together in Putney.  But the incident of the oil-painting makes me wonder whether Arthur had a second family.

Can anyone suggest how Mary Teresa could fit in?  If she wasn't Annie Maud's, who was her mother?  Is anybody researching the Farnham family?

Grateful for any help,

Beetle.   
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Re: TILT/FARNHAM family in Ilford
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 July 08 23:12 BST (UK) »

Hi

I notice that one daughter was b in Paris so it's possible Mary was not b in England (there is no birth on freebmd between 1875-1888)

Without knowing how old she was it's difficult to find anything.  Francis Joseph A Farnham was b 1875 Islington.  The 1901 shows him as head of household and married but no wife shown.  His mother and his stepfather and stepbrothers are also living in the household

There is no marriage on freebmd for him prior to 1901

I think you need a copy of the Tilt/Farnham marriage cert to first of all confirm that Arthur is shown as her father and to establish how old she was when she married

Even then - you may have to wait until the 1911 census is released to find her birthplace
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Re: TILT/FARNHAM family in Ilford
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 July 08 11:08 BST (UK) »

Hallo Carole

Many thanks for your information about Francis Joseph A Farnham's birth, and about the 1901 census.

I think you're right about the need to get his marriage certificate.  Iwas trying to avoid having to shell out for another certificate, but it looks as though there is no way round this one. 

Your suggestion of a birth in Paris is another idea I will pursue.  The names Teresa and Francis do suggest a possibility that they were Catholics, which the rest of the Tilt family were not, so a liaison in Paris might fit in with that scenario. 

Gratefully,

Beetle.
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Re: TILT/FARNHAM family in Ilford
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 July 08 16:03 BST (UK) »

Hi

I would have thought Tilt was an English surname but when I was checking the 1901, I found this Mary Tilt.  Can't be Arthur's daughter in view of the age but you may want to bear it in mind

Living in Chelsea London at St Joseph's Convent Cadogan St

Mary Tilt 45 b France - British Subject - Teacher of French
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Re: TILT/FARNHAM family in Ilford
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 July 08 18:17 BST (UK) »

Oh dear, Carole - the plot thickens!  I can't find this Mary on the overseas births, yet it says she is a British subject.  There was another Tilt family in London apart from mine, but this does seem to fit in with a possible Catholic connection. 

I believe Tilt exists in other European countries as a surname, but the earliest record I have for my Tilts is in the fifteenth century in a village called Capel, near Dorking in Surrey. 

Thanks for your help,

Beetle.
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Re: TILT/FARNHAM family in Ilford
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 August 08 17:44 BST (UK) »

Intrigued as to what you've found out about the Tilts. I'm descended from Alfred Preston Tilt, Arthur's brother, and have some limited information about him but not much earlier than their father Frederick.
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