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Re: TWINN Henry, which Margaret Surrah did he marry?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 25 April 08 02:12 BST (UK) »

Hey Findem, nice to hear from you too. 

It was just me being curious re the Edward Connell/Cornhill thing.  Of no importance really.  I'd had a message from a guy on the GR website who goes back to 'the other' Margaret Surrah and that's what sparked my interest.

Yes I agree with you on the Trevor Mills matter, such a shame really.  Who knows what info his father has collected over the years.  A veritable treasure trove I'm sure.  Oh well, maybe one day....we live in hope.

I had no idea you'd been unwell, pleased to hear you're 'coming good'.

Talk again soon.
Cheers
Julie
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Re: TWINN Henry, which Margaret Surrah did he marry?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 25 April 08 10:32 BST (UK) »

Hi Julie,

Have you asked the guy how he sorted out which Margaret Surrah was the right one for him?

I'd be interested to hear, I hope he hasn't just taken the IGI as gospel  Shocked

Regards

PS I've sent a PM.
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Re: TWINN Henry, which Margaret Surrah did he marry?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 26 April 08 00:39 BST (UK) »

Hi Findem
I havn't done any genealogy for a while now, most of my time is taken up looking after Brian, and over the last 3 weeks doing the 50 mile round trip back and forth to the hospital to visit him.  But I came on tonight and came across the following, whether it will be any good to you or not.
http://www.three-peaks.net/nay_gotchy/f2226.htm
This website has an Edward Cornhill married to Margaret Surrah.  Margaret's parents being Samuel Surrah and Margaret Mary Brewer.
The only thing wrong with this entry is that they have Margaret's death down as 1747 and her buriel as 1779 (she must have been a bit smelling by then.)
Anyway maybe if you contacted them they may be able to tell you where they got there info, it may just be another IGI entry, but worth a try.
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Re: TWINN Henry, which Margaret Surrah did he marry?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 26 April 08 12:25 BST (UK) »

Hi Susie,

Not one of the people I contacted replied, as it was quite some time ago I guess they aren't going to  Shocked Angry  I'll check that site out tomorrow when I have more time, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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Re: TWINN Henry, which Margaret Surrah did he marry?
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 12 June 08 03:48 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue,

I do hope by now Brian is out of hospital and feeling much better.

Thought I'd let you know that I did check that site out, I sent an email asking if they could advise me what factor influenced the decision as to which of the two Margaret Surrahs they consider to be the Margaret who married Edward Cornell.  I didn't get any help but I have today sent another email asking the question again in a different way and also asked that if they cannot help, can they point me toward someone who possibly can.  I also put the evidence, as I see it, in the form of pluses and minuses, I'll paste an extract from the email below.

Both on your family Group Sheet and on the IGI it is claimed that the Margaret Surrah who married Edward Cornell was the daughter of  Samuel & Mary Surrah. 
 
If I take that info as correct, then the Margaret Surrah who married Henry Twinn is the daughter of John & Margaret Surrah, here is how I see the pluses and minuses:

 
On the plus side for Margaret the daughter of John and Margaret Surrah being the wife of Henry Twinn is that Henry and Margaret did not name children Samuel or Mary, unless there are children baptised somewhere that I have not found.  Also, Henry and Margaret named a son Jonathon, a possible hint that Margaret's father was John.
 
On the plus side for Margaret the daughter of Samuel and Mary being the wife of Edward Cornell is that Edward and Margaret named a daughter Mary, possibly after Margaret's mother.
On the minus side is that Edward & Margaret did not name a son Samuel after Margaret's father, also that they named two sons John, suggesting that the name John was quite important to them.


I just hope I haven't confused them, confused myself several times whilst writing the email, does it make sense to you?  Please feel free to be honest, I may hate you for a while but it will soon pass  Grin

Previously I was inclined to feel that those who suggest Henry Twinn's wife is Margaret the daughter of John & Margaret (i.e. because Edward Cornell married the other one) were right.  Now, after putting the matter in plus and minus form, I'm not so sure, in fact possibly a tad biased toward Henry Twinn's Margaret being the daughter of Samuel & Mary.  In regard to those pluses and minuses I am conscious that the name Mary is weak evidence because so many families had a Mary regardless of a parent or grandmother being a Mary, I was just trying to be fair.

Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner but the paperwork and red tape to cut through since my wife died has been very time consuming.  I'm only just starting to get fully back into things genealogical, it hasn't been easy to pick up where I left off.

I'll post any reply I receive.

Regards.
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Re: TWINN Henry, which Margaret Surrah did he marry?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 22:35 BST (UK) »

I am well confused  Huh  Huh  Huh  Huh  Huh but then it don't take much does it haha  Cheesy  Grin
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Re: TWINN Henry, which Margaret Surrah did he marry?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 22 August 08 06:03 BST (UK) »

Hi Findem
Hope all's well.  Nice to see you back on here again.

Just read your last post re which Margaret married Henry.  Kath I'm with you - confused  Huh  and it it doesn't take much with me either  Smiley   Hope all's well with you too Kath.

So - have we worked out yet which Margaret is indeed his wife?  Another thing while I'm on here.  Can you please tell me if I have this correct - I have Margaret and Henry's children as Johnathon b 1734, Edward b1735, Daniel b1737, Margaret b1738, Fanny b1746 and Margaret b1749.

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Julie
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Re: TWINN Henry, which Margaret Surrah did he marry?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 22 August 08 07:50 BST (UK) »

Hi Julie,

Took me a few minutes to get it all together in my head again

Well I still haven't heard anything and now don't expect to, apparently those I've contacted are not interested.  The only other explanation I can think of is that "they" didn't know there were two Margaret Surrahs and so have no explanation to offer, or they didn't know and don't care.  

If only one of the two couples had named a son John, rather than both, it might have made possible an educated guess as to which Margaret Surrah married Henry Twinn.

If you would like to be even more confused try looking at the problem from the age at marriage angle.

Margaret of John & Margaret bap 1706.
If she married Ed Cornhill in 1730 she would have been aged 24.
If she married Henry Twinn in 1738 she would have been 32.

Margaret of Samuel & Mary bap 1709.
If she married Ed Cornhill in 1730 she would have been 21.
If she married Henry Twinn in 1738 she would have been 29.

So logically what combination is best? only answer if you are a masochist or like playing with numbers.

I have 1748 for the second Margaret but the others match mine.  Someone found the burial of Elizabeth Twinn an infant of Henry & Margaret buried 20 Jun 1739 at Felsted, I didn't find her baptism there, Clincher did a check for me but didn't find the baptism in Felsted.  I have a note to myself to try Good Easter when I have a chance.
 
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Re: TWINN Henry, which Margaret Surrah did he marry?
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 23 August 08 03:58 BST (UK) »

Hey Findem
Thanks so much for this.  Think I need to spend a bit of time just going thru it slowly to get it straight in my head.  Mind you that may never happen  Grin
Gotta go, have a good weekend , catch up again soon.
cheers
Julie
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