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Topic: TWINN Henry, which Margaret Surrah did he marry? (Read 1487 times)
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findem
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Hi Julie,
Have you asked the guy how he sorted out which Margaret Surrah was the right one for him?
I'd be interested to hear, I hope he hasn't just taken the IGI as gospel 
Regards
PS I've sent a PM.
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Susie1
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Hi Findem
I havn't done any genealogy for a while now, most of my time is taken up looking after Brian, and over the last 3 weeks doing the 50 mile round trip back and forth to the hospital to visit him. But I came on tonight and came across the following, whether it will be any good to you or not.
http://www.three-peaks.net/nay_gotchy/f2226.htm
This website has an Edward Cornhill married to Margaret Surrah. Margaret's parents being Samuel Surrah and Margaret Mary Brewer.
The only thing wrong with this entry is that they have Margaret's death down as 1747 and her buriel as 1779 (she must have been a bit smelling by then.)
Anyway maybe if you contacted them they may be able to tell you where they got there info, it may just be another IGI entry, but worth a try.
Take Care
Sue
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findem
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Hi Susie,
Not one of the people I contacted replied, as it was quite some time ago I guess they aren't going to  I'll check that site out tomorrow when I have more time, thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Regards
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findem
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Hi Sue,
I do hope by now Brian is out of hospital and feeling much better.
Thought I'd let you know that I did check that site out, I sent an email asking if they could advise me what factor influenced the decision as to which of the two Margaret Surrahs they consider to be the Margaret who married Edward Cornell. I didn't get any help but I have today sent another email asking the question again in a different way and also asked that if they cannot help, can they point me toward someone who possibly can. I also put the evidence, as I see it, in the form of pluses and minuses, I'll paste an extract from the email below.
Both on your family Group Sheet and on the IGI it is claimed that the Margaret Surrah who married Edward Cornell was the daughter of Samuel & Mary Surrah.
If I take that info as correct, then the Margaret Surrah who married Henry Twinn is the daughter of John & Margaret Surrah, here is how I see the pluses and minuses:
On the plus side for Margaret the daughter of John and Margaret Surrah being the wife of Henry Twinn is that Henry and Margaret did not name children Samuel or Mary, unless there are children baptised somewhere that I have not found. Also, Henry and Margaret named a son Jonathon, a possible hint that Margaret's father was John.
On the plus side for Margaret the daughter of Samuel and Mary being the wife of Edward Cornell is that Edward and Margaret named a daughter Mary, possibly after Margaret's mother.
On the minus side is that Edward & Margaret did not name a son Samuel after Margaret's father, also that they named two sons John, suggesting that the name John was quite important to them.
I just hope I haven't confused them, confused myself several times whilst writing the email, does it make sense to you? Please feel free to be honest, I may hate you for a while but it will soon pass 
Previously I was inclined to feel that those who suggest Henry Twinn's wife is Margaret the daughter of John & Margaret (i.e. because Edward Cornell married the other one) were right. Now, after putting the matter in plus and minus form, I'm not so sure, in fact possibly a tad biased toward Henry Twinn's Margaret being the daughter of Samuel & Mary. In regard to those pluses and minuses I am conscious that the name Mary is weak evidence because so many families had a Mary regardless of a parent or grandmother being a Mary, I was just trying to be fair.
Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner but the paperwork and red tape to cut through since my wife died has been very time consuming. I'm only just starting to get fully back into things genealogical, it hasn't been easy to pick up where I left off.
I'll post any reply I receive.
Regards.
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findem
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Hi Julie,
Took me a few minutes to get it all together in my head again
Well I still haven't heard anything and now don't expect to, apparently those I've contacted are not interested. The only other explanation I can think of is that "they" didn't know there were two Margaret Surrahs and so have no explanation to offer, or they didn't know and don't care.
If only one of the two couples had named a son John, rather than both, it might have made possible an educated guess as to which Margaret Surrah married Henry Twinn.
If you would like to be even more confused try looking at the problem from the age at marriage angle.
Margaret of John & Margaret bap 1706.
If she married Ed Cornhill in 1730 she would have been aged 24.
If she married Henry Twinn in 1738 she would have been 32.
Margaret of Samuel & Mary bap 1709.
If she married Ed Cornhill in 1730 she would have been 21.
If she married Henry Twinn in 1738 she would have been 29.
So logically what combination is best? only answer if you are a masochist or like playing with numbers.
I have 1748 for the second Margaret but the others match mine. Someone found the burial of Elizabeth Twinn an infant of Henry & Margaret buried 20 Jun 1739 at Felsted, I didn't find her baptism there, Clincher did a check for me but didn't find the baptism in Felsted. I have a note to myself to try Good Easter when I have a chance.
Regards.
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findem
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Hi Kath,
I'll PM you regarding the email just in case either your email or mine failed to reach it's destination.
Jonathon 22 Sep 1736.
Edward 30 Nov 1735.
Daniel 13 Apr 1737.
Margaret 29 Oct 1738.
*Elizabeth c1739
Fanny 15 Jun 1746.
Margaret 24 Sep 1748.
* Clincher found the burial of Elizabeth an infant, daughter of Henry Twinn, Elizabeth was buried 20 July 1739 at Felsted, neither Clincher nor myself could find her baptism in Felsted PRs. I wonder if it was a case of Elizabeth dying before she could be baptised or was privately baptised and the Rector failed to have the baptism recorded. Noting the gap between 1739 and 1746 it is possible that the family moved away from Felsted for a few years, the first daughter named Margaret would have died sometime after 1739 and before the baptism of Fanny in 1746. I couldn't find a burial for Margaret in Felsted PRs (unless I missed it!), so there is a possibility of the family moving. Then again perhaps the birth of Elizabeth went badly and so Henry and Margaret had to lay off procreating for a while.
This family is a bit of a pain, first we have the dilemma of which Margaret Surrah married Henry Twinn then, when and where Elizabeth was baptised, if at all, on top of it all I haven't found the birth/baptism of Henry Twinn. By the way I have a search of Good Easter on my list, hoping I'll find other children for Henry and Margaret and perhaps Henry himself, no real clues pointing to Good Easter but I've noticed a fair bit of two-way movements between Good Easter and Felsted, just like Good Easter and Gt Waltham.
Regards.
Regards
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Hope all's well with you too Kath.