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Essex export
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My first bike
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I seem to have a gap in my education. 
I know that children of our parents siblings are our cousins but can any one define 'second cousin' for me.
Thanks and regards
Andy
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tony h
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Hi Andy,
I think you have to go one up, to your parent's uncles and aunties, then down to find your second cousins. But not an expert on this 
Best wishes
Tony
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tony h
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Andy,
Not sure if that was clear, your mum & dad's cousins are your second cousins. Absolutely clear now 
i,m still confused
Tony
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Essex export
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Hi Tony
Glad it's not just me that finds it confusing. (Along with the expression 'once removed')
Regards
Andy
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MarieC
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I believe that your children and those of your first cousin are second cousins, their children are third cousins, and so on!!!
Your mum and dad's cousins are your first cousins once removed.
I think I'm right!! 
MarieC
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kelly
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This chart is very helpful when trying to work out relationships
http://genealogy.about.com/library/nrelationshipchart.htm
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BRUCE; MATHER; MCKILLOP;BALMAIN;ALYSON (Perth,Scotland);BLAIR:SCOTT;FLEMING,PATERSON; SEMPLE (Midlothian, Scotland) CRANE; PLEAVIN; SUMNER;DUTTON Cheshire; HEWITT (Cheshire & Liverpool); FLAHERTY;HEGARTY; KELLY; LAPPIN; MCDONALD SAVAGE; REYNOLDS (Ireland & Liverpool); MCVEY; MELLOR in Liverpool PRICE(Denbighshire & Liverpool); BOLITHO;CHAMPERNOWNE;GODOLPHIN;HODGE;TREBILCOCK;TREVILER;WEBB; TREWARTHA:UREN (Cornwall) Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MarieC
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Phew!! Thanks for confirming that, Carmela, it gets very confusing sometimes!
Kelly, that's a great chart, thank you for the link. It should solve all arguments!! I will download it.
MarieC
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Gadget
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It's descendants of common grandparents - first cousins
descendants of common grt grandparents - second cousins
descendants of grt grt grandparents - 3rd cousins
etc., etc.
The 'removed' bit is when you are not on the same generation level i.e. my father's second cousin and I are second cousin's once removed.
Gadget
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Essex export
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Thanks for everyones input
I can now quote with confidence that a person is an Xth cousin Y times removed without crossing my fingers.
Thanks for the link Kelly. I have printed it off for future reference.
Regards
Andy
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behindthefrogs
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Take both people back to the same generation: each movement back a generation is the number of times removed.
Find the common ancestor of that genration and count the "g"s. That indicates the first , second etc. cousin.
grandparents first cousin
great grandparents 2Gs second cousins etc.
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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CarolBurns
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Posts: 1919
I'm still looking !
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How I work it is this way
Common Grandparents - 1st cousin
" G Grandparents - 2nd cousin
" GG Grandparents - 3rd cousin
" GGG Grandparents - 4th cousin
and so on
The once removed is you and your cousins children, Twice removed is you and their children and so on
Carol
Takes a while to get used to but works everytime with me now
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Horsburgh, Sandilands, Blackhall, Rankine, Rankin, Hilson, Nielson - Scotland
Turnbull, Mills, Burgoyne, Burgon - Northumberland,
Davidson - Scotland, India, Burma
Lopez - India, Burma
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behindthefrogs
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In the UK your mother's first cousin is your first cousin once removed. Would it be any different in the US? If so what do you call the relationship?
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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