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Topic: Burns and Neilson Family - Kelso area (Read 604 times)
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CarolBurns
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I am trying to find more info on Agnes Neilson
She is my husband's Great Great Grandmother. She was born in 1814 in Kelso to Thomas Neilson and Margaret Hogarth
I know she had a son, William Wallace b 1846 Eckford to a man named John Wallace.
In 1861 she is living with Peter Burns b 1815 - 1817 Ireland and they also have a son Hugh Burns aged 6 b Kelso. He is my husband's Great Grandfather.
In 1871 Agnes, Hugh and William had moved to another area of Scotland and Peter was no longer with them. Agnes states that she is a widow.
I have been unable to trace them in the 1851 census but that could be me just not seeing them as I want to see them if you know what I mean.
I have managed to trace Thomas and Margaret back but am not 100% sure about Thomas' birth place and date. I have 1782 Rutherglen but am definite that he married Margaret Hogarth in 1807. Margaret was born to Charles Hogarth and Jane Jamieson in 1780 in Kelso. They had four children altogether (that I know of) - Isabel 1809, Thomas 1811, Mary 1817 and Agnes though I have no other details of Isabel, Thomas or Mary
Has anyone got any links to this family and any definite info on Thomas and his birthplace? Or can anyone help with the search for Peter Burns and Agnes in 1851 or even Agnes and son, William in 1851?
Carol
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Thomas, Williams,Owen (s),Griffith (s), Jones - Anglesey
Burns, Wallace - Northumberland, Ireland, Scotland
Horsburgh, Sandilands, Blackhall, Rankine, Rankin, Hilson, Nielson - Scotland
Turnbull, Mills, Burgoyne, Burgon - Northumberland,
Davidson - Scotland, India, Burma
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Gadget
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I'm assuming you've had a look on the 1851, Carol, but if not I'll have a good look for you. I've got some spare units.
PM me if you like 
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CarolBurns
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Thanks Gadget
PM on its way
carol
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Thomas, Williams,Owen (s),Griffith (s), Jones - Anglesey
Burns, Wallace - Northumberland, Ireland, Scotland
Horsburgh, Sandilands, Blackhall, Rankine, Rankin, Hilson, Nielson - Scotland
Turnbull, Mills, Burgoyne, Burgon - Northumberland,
Davidson - Scotland, India, Burma
Lopez - India, Burma
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ScottishAncestry
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Hi,
Had a quick search in our own records,
Roxburgh Parish,
Book 3, Page 11
Heiton
Agnes Wallace; Head; Widow; 37; Agricultural Labourer;born Roxburgh, Melrose
John Wallace; Son; 10; Scholar; born England
James Wallace; Son; 7; Scholar; born England
William Wallace; Son; 4; Scholar; born Roxburgh, Eckford
Patrick Burns; Lodger; Unmarried; 30; Railway Labourer;born Ireland
Let me know if you don't think this is the right one and I'll have another look. By the way not sure how well you know the are but Heiton is very close to Kelso.
Emma
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CarolBurns
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Would this be the 1851 census Emma?
The wierd thing is that someone mentioned once that many of the Irish changed their names when they "emigrated " to scotland to fit in better
The Agnes looks right and so does the William. Didn't know about the other two though( John and James)
So all I need now is a marriage for Agnes and that might bring it all into line. And John and james wouldn't have been on the 1861 as they would have been 20 and 17 by then.
Oh dear I can feel a headache coming on lol
Oh dear i am shaking as this "feels" right to me
Thank you so much
Carol
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« Last Edit: Monday 10 April 06 15:23 UTC (UK) by Arranroots »
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Thomas, Williams,Owen (s),Griffith (s), Jones - Anglesey
Burns, Wallace - Northumberland, Ireland, Scotland
Horsburgh, Sandilands, Blackhall, Rankine, Rankin, Hilson, Nielson - Scotland
Turnbull, Mills, Burgoyne, Burgon - Northumberland,
Davidson - Scotland, India, Burma
Lopez - India, Burma
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Gadget
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They're the ones Carol - that I've mentioned on the other thread. Are you sure your Agnes was born Kelso? But I don't think it looks like Melrose
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Gadget
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Found John b. circa 1840 - Lucker Northumberland bpt. 12 August 1840 to John Wallace and Agnes.
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CarolBurns
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That definitely sounds like them doesn't it?
Maybe I have the right year of birth for Agnes but the wrong date and place
Don't forget this is info I have had since the beginning of my search and I was limited then to what i could use. So maybe I need to do a bit of "deleting" if we find these are the right ones
Carol
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Thomas, Williams,Owen (s),Griffith (s), Jones - Anglesey
Burns, Wallace - Northumberland, Ireland, Scotland
Horsburgh, Sandilands, Blackhall, Rankine, Rankin, Hilson, Nielson - Scotland
Turnbull, Mills, Burgoyne, Burgon - Northumberland,
Davidson - Scotland, India, Burma
Lopez - India, Burma
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Gadget
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Hi Carol
Hugh married 1875 not 1876 
Still puzzling over this birthplace of Agnes. I've attached a blow up
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Gadget
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And I'm thinking that Thomas is possibly the Dunbar one I mentioned:
1788 Alexander Neilson/Isobel Beathe
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CarolBurns
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Definitely lookslike Melrose to me
how far is Melrose from Kelso?
Carol
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Thomas, Williams,Owen (s),Griffith (s), Jones - Anglesey
Burns, Wallace - Northumberland, Ireland, Scotland
Horsburgh, Sandilands, Blackhall, Rankine, Rankin, Hilson, Nielson - Scotland
Turnbull, Mills, Burgoyne, Burgon - Northumberland,
Davidson - Scotland, India, Burma
Lopez - India, Burma
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Gadget
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Not very far at all Carol. Just to the NW a bit, south of Jedburgh.
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CarolBurns
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Well detective Gadget - you are now promoted to Chief Inspector
Keep up the good work
Thanks so much for all your time and help
Carol
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Thomas, Williams,Owen (s),Griffith (s), Jones - Anglesey
Burns, Wallace - Northumberland, Ireland, Scotland
Horsburgh, Sandilands, Blackhall, Rankine, Rankin, Hilson, Nielson - Scotland
Turnbull, Mills, Burgoyne, Burgon - Northumberland,
Davidson - Scotland, India, Burma
Lopez - India, Burma
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CarolBurns
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OMG
Just realised that I have made you Inspector Gadget !!  LOL
Didn't realise until I had read the post.
You can stay as Detective if you like then
Carol
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Thomas, Williams,Owen (s),Griffith (s), Jones - Anglesey
Burns, Wallace - Northumberland, Ireland, Scotland
Horsburgh, Sandilands, Blackhall, Rankine, Rankin, Hilson, Nielson - Scotland
Turnbull, Mills, Burgoyne, Burgon - Northumberland,
Davidson - Scotland, India, Burma
Lopez - India, Burma
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Gadget
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That's worthy of a GRACELAND joke Carol 
I think the County Forces heads are plain Chief Constable, so that would do nicely - or I could replace Charles Clarke at the Home Office 
Gadget
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