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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 18 February 04 14:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi there Twink

Looking in the early Census returns for St Mary & St Clements, Hastings we have the following:

1821 Census - taken on 28th May 1821
John Breeds, Fisherman, 1 Family of 5 males & 1 Female.
Mark Breeds, Merchant, 1 Family of 1 male & 4 Females

1831 Census - Taken on 30th May 1831
Mr Breeds, Merchant, 1 Family of 2 males & 3 females
James Breeds, -, 1 Family of 2 males & 5 females - (High Street)
Thomas Breeds, -, 1 Family of 3 males & 5 females. (High Street)

Some of them could possibly connect at some point

Handy to have them filed away

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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 18 February 04 15:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Twink

"Richard WENHAM b. 1811 Guestling who married a Sarah MARTIN in 1831 "Hollington."

Whilst there are several Wenham & Whenham families in Hastings on the earlier census returns, there are also 2 Martin Families - I don't know if you have Sara Martins Father and/or his occupation ?

1831 Census, St Clements, Hastings
Michael Martin, Shoemaker, 3 Families totalling 4 males & 2 Females (High Street)
William Martin, -, 1 Family of 3 males & 2 females.

During the period 1820 - 1850 ish, 'Church in the Wood' at Hollington was the preferred church for marriages for Hastings couples.

Another bit of information to print off and file away

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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 18 February 04 16:44 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks for the additional information.. I'm abit short of time right now but as soon as I get a chance I will definately look and see if I can find the families on the trees that I have.  
I don't as yet no Sarah Martins fathers details, but I will keep your information for future reference.

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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 24 February 04 07:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris,

I have a starting & end point for one of my Wallis family but can not find him in between. He was one of 11 from John & Ann (Austen) Wallis, m 1799,  from Lamberhurst/Ticehurst.

1.Thomas Wallis Ch 1799 Lamberhurst. Died 1872 Ticehurst Workhouse, no info from death cert.

I have checked the 1801, 31, 41, 51 Census for Tice/Lamberhurst without luck so for him so he obviously worked out of the Parish but likely not to far away...unless he was in the army perhaps.

Would it be possible to check the surrounding Parish's for him in 1851 other than Vol 11, 12 & 13 of the C. J. Barnes copilation.

Regards,
John
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BELL :Coatbridge, Sct & West Aust
WALLIS :Lamberhurst, Ticehurst, Frant. Ssx & West Aust
SENYARD :London.
VEAZEY :London
PARMENTER :Acton Suffolk & London & West Aust
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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 24 February 04 11:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi John

Not good news I am afraid.

I have checked all 23 volumes of the June Barnes 1851 Census transcription without success for you Thomas Wallis aged about 51/52.

There were only 3 Thomas Wallis's aged 18, 63 and 64 - so obviously to young and to old.

I do not hve volume 24 which is on fiche and covers:
Vol 24 - Brighton area (Hove, Preston, Patcham, West Blatchington, Hangleton, Portslade, Aldrington, Southwick, Old Shoreham) by Eastbourne Family Roots – 2 Fiche £3.80.

Sorry I can not help

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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 24 February 04 12:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris,

Thank you for your time, much appreciated. I am surprised that Thomas Wallis only turned up three times, at least that gives me some hope knowing the name is not all that common.
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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 24 February 04 12:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris,
  I was hoping you could look up Edward Henty born in 1831 in Piddinghoe. He was either in Piddinghoe or Newhaven in 1851. His father was Philip, mother Elizabeth.
          Thanks
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Looking for Henty and Wilding - in Sussex.
Fryer and Stride - in Portsea, Hampshire.
Feakins - in Isle of Sheppey, Kent.
Hawkins - in Faversham, Kent.
Arnold - in Alton, Hampshire.
Venn, Alfrey(Alfred), Ste(a)dman and Gibbons in Surrey.
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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 24 February 04 12:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi there Michelle

According to the Junes Barnes 1851 Census transcription; the information you want is as follows:

HO107/ 1643/ Folio 746/ Page 88 – Newhaven.

HENTY  Phillip, Head, Marr, 39, Ag Lab, born Chalvington, Sussex ?
            Elizabeth, Wi, Marr, 50, Piddinghoe, Sussex.
            Edward, Son, Unm, 20, Ag Lab, born Piddinghoe.
            Phillip, Son, Unm, 17, born Piddinghoe.
            Wiliam, Son, Unm, Shipwrights Appr, born Piddinghoe

Have not got an exact address, Folio 743 and 744 are Blue Anchor, 745 is Ship Inn, but all we have for 746 is Newhaven Village.

Hope that aids your research

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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 24 February 04 13:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Chris,
  Thank you so much. I had found a birth of a Philip Henty in Chalvington in 1801 and didn't know if he was the one I was looking for. Now I know he is the right one, I can go back even further with the Henty's.
   Michelle.
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Fryer and Stride - in Portsea, Hampshire.
Feakins - in Isle of Sheppey, Kent.
Hawkins - in Faversham, Kent.
Arnold - in Alton, Hampshire.
Venn, Alfrey(Alfred), Ste(a)dman and Gibbons in Surrey.
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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 24 February 04 14:42 UTC (UK) »

Michelle

Hey, Hang on a moment

"I had found a birth of a Philip Henty in Chalvington in 1801 and didn't know if he was the one I was looking for. Now I know he is the right one, I can go back even further with the Henty's."

If Phillip was born / baptized in 1801 - then by the time of the 1851 census he would have been 49 or 50 depending on which side of the census date his birthday fell.

The Phillip Henty (as transcribed in the 1851) was only 39

Do you have any other info to substantiate it being your Phillip

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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 24 February 04 16:38 UTC (UK) »

Chris,
  Sorry, maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit. Could you please tell me why you have put a question mark next to the age for Phillip Henty senior? I know that sometimes ages, even names are put in wrong on certain records - I have come accross this myself a few times already. Perhaps I assumed too much when I first read your earlier reply, but now I have had a look at the other details, they do lead me to believe that I have the correct birth for this Phillip Henty.
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Fryer and Stride - in Portsea, Hampshire.
Feakins - in Isle of Sheppey, Kent.
Hawkins - in Faversham, Kent.
Arnold - in Alton, Hampshire.
Venn, Alfrey(Alfred), Ste(a)dman and Gibbons in Surrey.
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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 24 February 04 16:45 UTC (UK) »

Michelle

First of all, there was no question mark on the 1851 census transcription, I put it in, (possibly in the wrong place) for three reasons.

1. He is 39, when he should be 49 ?
2. a 39 year old with a wife of 50 ?
3. Has a son of 20 - making him a very early father

Was just asking if you had any further proof that this was definitely your Phillip by tieing his age up with other archive material.

Didnt want to alarm you at all

Chris in 1066Land

PS. -  I have now moved the question mark to the correct place.

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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 24 February 04 17:30 UTC (UK) »

John

Just a thought:

Hi Chris,

I have a starting & end point for one of my Wallis family but can not find him in between. He was one of 11 from John & Ann (Austen) Wallis, m 1799,  from Lamberhurst/Ticehurst.

1.Thomas Wallis Ch 1799 Lamberhurst. Died 1872 Ticehurst Workhouse, no info from death cert.

I have checked the 1801, 31, 41, 51 Census for Tice/Lamberhurst without luck so for him so he obviously worked out of the Parish but likely not to far away...unless he was in the army perhaps.

Would it be possible to check the surrounding Parish's for him in 1851 other than Vol 11, 12 & 13 of the C. J. Barnes copilation.

Regards,
John


Looking at the maps of East Sussex & Kent - both Ticehurst and Lamberhurst are on the borders - should we be looking in Kent rather than Sussex for your Thomas Wallis.

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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 24 February 04 18:55 UTC (UK) »

Fred Judge started producing local postcards in Hastings in 1904 and became one of the most famous of all the postcard photographers.  A photograph taken in 1904 of “Lightning on Hastings Pier” became an instant best-seller with some 25,000 of the cards bought within the year.  He died in 1950 at 78 years of age but the firm that he founded still survives.

I have a copy of a catalogue:
"The Topographical Guide to Judges Postcards 1906 - 1955", compiled by Ron Grosvenor, Nov 1987, that lists some 26000 pictures broken down into County by County.

Postcard are an excellent source of Local and Family History, and help to put 'Flesh on the Bones' of our Ancestors.

Judges Postcards Study Group
To join the growing band of Collectors who are researching and exchanging Judges Postcard Information, contact
Ron Grosvenor, 9 Brackley Road, Towcester, Northants. NN12 7DH

I will search the catalogue if required

Chris in 1066Land

The picture is of an early shop here in Hastings.


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Re:Research in Sussex
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 25 February 04 10:49 UTC (UK) »

1851 Census Hastings, Sussex.  Probably St Clements.

John WILLIS  Fisherman  

Undecided Rather vague I know...  He was born before 1815.  He was married but I don't know her name.  

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