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AMBLY
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Hi Sharleen
Gee, Mo is right, JH is rather was a looker wasn't he 
All I had extra for you was the link to the NSW BMD site - but I think you have that anyway?
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm
On it you will find what I believe is:
Frederick W HUDSON jnr's birth to Frederick W and Louisa A, those of his "missing" siblings, his parents marriage, his mother's death and his mother's birth.......how go you? I don't know if getting the marriage would give you the parents names of FW snr?
I would perhaps contact the lady who posted the 2 deaths posted earlier and ask if she has also has death notice on her files for FW senior btw Jun 1926 and Dec 1944, and for FW jnr's wife Janet.
And a link:
http://www.national.archives.gov.za/
[But Maybe this is the site that wasn;t working for Annie....it's search facility is down]
Re: Eleanor's birth - one clue is she was born in Essex, England and about 1865/66 according to her age at death. FREEDBM has the following single result for a search of an Eleanor Beatrice between 1863 and 1868, may be a bit late and FREEBDM is incomplete: Then again, the informant at her death did not know her parents names and maybe he did not have her right age either?
Registered June Quarter 1868:
COWDERY Eleanor Beatrice W. Ham Ref: 4a 64
Best of luck!
Anne/AMBLY
PS: Modify - adding this as follows, Sharleen, as seems you didn't find it as I thought on the above website - hope it helps!
The children of Frederick W HUDSON and Louisa A BEST:
HUDSON , LOUIE born1887 Ashfield Ref 5856/1887 , died 1887 Ashfield Ref: 2664/1887
HUDSON JENNIE born Ashfield Ref: 4704/1891
HUDSON DOROTHY G born 1893 Ashfield Ref: 4566/1893 , believe married Garnet Roy DETTMAN 1917 and died 1933 and at least 2 children? - see post further down]
HUDSON MARJORIE L born 1895 Redfern Ref 26353/1895, died 1895 Redfern ref: 10062/1895
Redfern is also part of Sydney.
Mother Louisa A HUDSON died 1895 Redfern Ref: 10029/1895 daughter of WILLIAM and UNKNOWN in REDFERN (and see more further down on her).
Looks to me as if Louisa died in Childbirth or as a result of.
A.
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liverpool annie
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Hi Sharleen and Anne !!
That is a wonderful happy face - that boy has !! I love it !!
Anne .... didn't you think this was the mother ?? did you have it Sharleen ?
10029/1895 Hudson Louisa A daughter of William and Unknown in Redfern
I found Eleanor Cowdery too - did you get her also Sharleen ?
Why don't you tell us what you have and then we won't be going over stuff you already know !!
Annie 
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AMBLY
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Hi Annie & Sharleen
Yep, I found that Louisa A death, which is why I also think her birth is there too, in 1866 to a Willam and Susan BEST
And the deaths of 2 Fred. W/Louisa A children, Louie and Marjorie L also
Just gotta find find Frederick...! 
Cheers
Anne
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AMBLY
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Hi Sharleen
Does the name DETTMANN come up at all, in any of the documents/photo's you've gathered? I ask because:
NSW BMDs
Death in Sydney, 1933 of a Dorothy G DETTMANN, her parents: Frederick W and Louisa A.
Marriage 1917 of a Dorothy G HUDSON to a Garnet R DETTMANN in Mosman, NSW
in NAA:
WW1 record for a Garnet Roy DETTMANN
WW2 record of a John Frederick DETTMANN born Longueville NSW, Next of Kin: Audrey DETTMANN.
WW2 record of an Elizabeth Beryl DETTMAN born 1920 Longueville NSW, Next of Kin: Garnet R DETTMANN
thinking, if Frederick & Louisa are Frederick jnr.s parents, then Dorothy whose birth is there on the BMD's was one of the sisters you'd heard tale of and maybe tracking her may lead to something on Fred Snr.....
This may be cart before horse, but just thought I'd chuck the name into the pot, as it's rather distinctive!
Cheers
Anne
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liverpool annie
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Wow Anne !!
Nice job Sherlock !! 
Annie
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liverpool annie
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This is the only Dettmann I could find - so I'll post it - just in case !
In Memory of
Flight Sergeant Ronald Alexander Kenneth Dettmann
412409, Royal Australian Air Force
who died age 24
on 26 June 1943
Son of Norman John and Florence Mary Dettmann, of Mortdale, New South Wales, Australia.
Remembered with honour
El Alia Cemetery
Annie
check 26th June 1943
http://www.hudsonbomber.com/statistics/Index.htm
El Alia Cemetery lies 13 kilometres south-east of Algiers on the road to El Harrash and is situated within a large civilian cemetery.
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AMBLY
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Gnash, Gnash (sound of AMBLY gnawing on a bone...)
http://www.ozigen.com/tree/p574.htm#i29438
Louisa Alberta BEST b. 27 May 1860, d. 10 August 1895
daughter of William BEST and Susannah GILBERT
married Frederick W HUDSON 1884
Maybe just maybe, the webmaster has something, anything, more on Louisa's husband.......like the full details off the marriage record?
 Anne
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liverpool annie
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The word is ...
"sticktoitiveness " ........ !!! let's keep our fingers crossed !!
Annie
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AMBLY
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Hi
Found this
http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl?200604131745235A48F086
In Database: Pietermaritzburg Archives Repository (NAB)
DEPOT NAB
SOURCE MJPW
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 84
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE LW2332/1901
PART 1
DESCRIPTION FW HUDSON APPLIES FOR EMPLOYMENT - ESPECIALLY AS COLD STORAGE EXPERT.
STARTING 1901
ENDING 1901
REMARKS AM609/1901 AM493/1901.
If this is Frederick William HUDSON Snr and maybe it's not, but if it is, it gives some indication of his arrival time-frame in SA.....?
Cheers
Anne
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sharleen
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I see from the post Annie place that Louisa died on 10 August 1895.
On the New South Wales BMD site I found the following:
Marriage of Frederick William Hudson and Louisa A Best Central Cumberland 1884
Children:
Hudson: Frederick W born 1886 Ashfield
Hudson: Louie born 1887
Hudson: Jennie born 1891
Hudson: Dorothy G born 1893
Hudson: Marjorie L born 1895.
It is then possible that she died in childbirth.
Obviously a good idea would be to see if I cannot get access to the marriage certificate of Frederick W and Eleanor, to get an idea of which year they got married.
Eleanor does not mention any other children aside from her two sons, James & Leonard, and the fact that she is living in the home of her stepson Frederick W on south coast junction. Which I may add is where my fathers older brother were listed as living when they were born. So my question then is what happened to the 4 other children. They would have been in their thirties I would imagine (not using a calculator).
The only parents I have found for a Frederick W Hudson were Robert and Jane Hudson district Choppendale. That doesn't necessarily mean that this is the same one.
The records that I now have is the Death Certificate of Frederick William Hudson , birthplace Sydney, Nationality British. Parents Deceased. lodged by his spouse Janet Hudson.
I have a duplicate copy of Frederick Williams marriage certificate dated Sept 3 1913 in Durban. Witnesses were JG Aitken (Janet's brother) and ? No names of parents.
I have a notice in the National Archives of South Africa (NASA) Ref: 3087/1918 starting 1918 ending 1931 for an Edward Leonard Hudson (S/s Dora Lilian, born Griff). This could be a divorce notice if it is the same Edward as I remember him still being alive in the 1980's
That is pretty much everything I have except now the information you have given me.
Thanks
Sharleen
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Brough, Dewar, Aitken, Cairns, Hudson - Scotland-Australia/South Africa
Gatenby, Spink, Nolan - Yorkshire/South Africa
Lane - Manchester/South Africa
Moore - London/South Africa
Stuart, Collins- Scotland/South Africa
Masson, De St Pern - France/Mauritius/South Africa
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AMBLY
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Hi Sharleen
If you go back over this topic, there are lots of clues as to what happened to the other 4 children - only the 2 girls apparently survived childhood; 1 appears to stay in AUstralia and marry, and that leaves just one for whom there is nothing further. I have modified an earlier message of mine to add BDM information.
I have also given you the website of a living researcher with Louisa A HUDSON nee BEST in his tree. He may have more unpublished data to share with you - he may even know what happened to her descendants/children - including the one who very likely became your ancestor.
And here is another living and current researcher with Louisa in his tree (my last offering, Google is melting)
http://members.optusnet.com.au/addisonia/gp185.htm#head4
Anne.
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