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British Home Children - Child Migration Scheme - Canada
« on: Monday 02 February 04 20:45 UTC (UK) »

British Home Children

An excellent web page and searchable database


http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren
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Re:British Home Children - Child Migration Scheme - Canada
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 February 04 04:37 UTC (UK) »

I went to the site and found two children that were missing from research:

Alfred (Henry) Dainton (born 16 Dec. 1877)
George Thomas Dainton (born 1882)

The other members of family are not listed - does this mean they were not sent to Canada?

Missing from same family:

Charles William Dainton born 1 Nov 1879
Edward Dainton born 1886
Ellen Dainton born 1888

All were the children of Hannah Rachel (nee Hardick) & Alfred Henry "Harry" Dainton.

Harry murdered his wife on 8 September 1891 & Harry was executed in Decembe 1891 for the crime. Children were sent to orphanage in Bath, Somerset.
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Re:British Home Children - Child Migration Scheme - Canada
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 February 04 08:21 UTC (UK) »

I went to the site and found two children that were missing from research:

Alfred (Henry) Dainton (born 16 Dec. 1877)
George Thomas Dainton (born 1882)

The other members of family are not listed - does this mean they were not sent to Canada?

Missing from same family:

Charles William Dainton born 1 Nov 1879
Edward Dainton born 1886
Ellen Dainton born 1888

All were the children of Hannah Rachel (nee Hardick) & Alfred Henry "Harry" Dainton.

Harry murdered his wife on 8 September 1891 & Harry was executed in Decembe 1891 for the crime. Children were sent to orphanage in Bath, Somerset.


Mmm, It is possible that a family member took these three children. It looks like the eldest and a younger one, perhaps they were poorly and stayed with a family member, sich as aunt or grandmother.  

Presuambly, you have managed to look through newspapers for the writeup regarding the crime and punishment. Does this list any details of family?  Have you looked for the three missing children on the 1901 Census index?
There is also a British Home Children database, which is searchable online on the web page of the Canadian Archives, I don't have the URL to hand, but a search of that would be helpful, as, and this is from memory, the database on Perry Snow page which you looked at is of those who are recorded by relatives. Have you submitted yours?
Here is the URL http://www.archives.ca/02/020110_e.html
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MATTHEWS, Edith (born 1877 Rugby last found in 1901 Merrow Guildford Surrey)
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Re:British Home Children - Child Migration Scheme - Canada
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 February 04 13:52 UTC (UK) »

The three missing children are not in the 1901 Census. The children were sent to Dr Barnardos and Mullers.

Could they have been split up - one group to Canada & the other to Australia?

The other family members were also poor and living in single rooms. Harry's family were living in Bradford-on-Avon and seem to have turned their back on him.

Harry drowned his wife in the River Avon after a struggle. It is interesting to note that his father-in-law spoke up for him at his trial.
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Re:British Home Children - Child Migration Scheme - Canada
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 February 04 20:30 UTC (UK) »

The three missing children are not in the 1901 Census. The children were sent to Dr Barnardos and Mullers.

Could they have been split up - one group to Canada & the other to Australia?

The other family members were also poor and living in single rooms. Harry's family were living in Bradford-on-Avon and seem to have turned their back on him.

Harry drowned his wife in the River Avon after a struggle. It is interesting to note that his father-in-law spoke up for him at his trial.


Hi, Yes I guess that it is possible that the family was split up. I am not too sure of the date that migration of children commenced to Australia. Given the extra information you have given it is likely that all the children were sent overseas.
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ORLANDO - One Name Study (everywhere & especially Sutera Sicily) - (GOONS 3925)
BUDD (Puttenham Surrey)
ELSTONE (Bramshott Hampshire)
GOUCHER (Scarcliffe Derbyshire)
MATTHEWS, Edith (born 1877 Rugby last found in 1901 Merrow Guildford Surrey)
WORSHIP - One Name Study (especially Huntingdonshire)- (GOONS 3925)
BUTCHER (Wonersh Surrey)
Puttenham Surrey - One Place Study
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Re:British Home Children - Child Migration Scheme - Canada
« Reply #5 on: Friday 13 February 04 04:17 UTC (UK) »

Found this on Google:

George Thomas Dainton
At Dr. Barnardo’s Home in Canada (1896 – 1902)
UPS & DOWNS with Almanac for 1902, Vol. VII, JANUARY 1, 1902, No. 2

OUR TWENTIETH YEAR’S EMIGRATION WORK
Published Under the Auspices of Dr. Barnardo’s Homes
Published quarterly   25 Cents per Annum
Office of Publication: 214 Farley Ave., Toronto
HOME CHAT (pg 43 - 57)
Dainton, George Thomas, Medal for 6 yrs service in 1situation brothers are at the Soo
See also - Alfred Dainton arrived in Canada July 1894
Wallacetown, Elgin County, Ontario, Canada, Dr. Barnardo’s Homes, 1895 – 1923 records

The above is just as you see it - note form with no further details. Are any of these records on-line anywhere?
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Re:British Home Children - Child Migration Scheme - Canada
« Reply #6 on: Friday 13 February 04 08:28 UTC (UK) »

Found this on Google:

George Thomas Dainton
At Dr. Barnardo’s Home in Canada (1896 – 1902)
UPS & DOWNS with Almanac for 1902, Vol. VII, JANUARY 1, 1902, No. 2

OUR TWENTIETH YEAR’S EMIGRATION WORK
Published Under the Auspices of Dr. Barnardo’s Homes
Published quarterly   25 Cents per Annum
Office of Publication: 214 Farley Ave., Toronto
HOME CHAT (pg 43 - 57)
Dainton, George Thomas, Medal for 6 yrs service in 1situation brothers are at the Soo
See also - Alfred Dainton arrived in Canada July 1894
Wallacetown, Elgin County, Ontario, Canada, Dr. Barnardo’s Homes, 1895 – 1923 records

The above is just as you see it - note form with no further details. Are any of these records on-line anywhere?

I am not sure, but the british home children mailing list on Rootsweb does have some of the ups and downs details in their archives. You can join via a subscribe box on the following URL
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren
It maybe worth looking at the Ontario archives online, I don't have the URL, but a quick Google should find it. You may well find any BMDs online. You could also write or email Dr Barnardos and see if they have an archive of Ups and Down.


Presumably, your relatives married and produced offspring and therefore the following maybe of use
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~births/index.htm (mainly births transcribed)

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/ontmarr.htm (marriages)

http://www.archives.ca/02/020106_e.html (First World War)
I recommend this one as, it looks like one of your relatives did indeed join up for the First World War and his digitial Attestation papers are online.

Whilst, I appreciate that you want to know more about their time and lives as home children, these other URLs might help peices together other bits of their lives.


I have just found the following
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/
Scroll to the bottom of the page and click home children. There is an enormous amount of information and a list of where the Ups and Downs are on microfilm. It appears as though the University of Liverpool Library.
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ELSTONE (Bramshott Hampshire)
GOUCHER (Scarcliffe Derbyshire)
MATTHEWS, Edith (born 1877 Rugby last found in 1901 Merrow Guildford Surrey)
WORSHIP - One Name Study (especially Huntingdonshire)- (GOONS 3925)
BUTCHER (Wonersh Surrey)
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Re:British Home Children - Child Migration Scheme - Canada
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 July 04 15:27 UTC (UK) »

About the availability of Ups and Downs, published by Dr Barnardos Homes in Toronto (1895-1949); at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/availupdown.html
there is a list of locations where one may consult certain issues of the publication, either in the original paper form or on microfilm. Since this list was made two more sources have been found: at the National Archives in Ottawa, and at the Alberta Archives. Both of these institutions have microfilm copies of the following issues, on 8 reels:

v. 1-2; 1895-1897 (Reel #1)
v. 5-7, no. 1; 1899-1901 (Reel#2)
v. 7, No. 2--v. 9; 1902-1903 (Reel #3)
v. 10-11, 21-23; 1904-1906, 1919-1921 (Reel #4)
v. 24-28; 1922-26 (Reel #5)
v. 29-33, no. 2; 1927-31 (Reel #6)
v. 33, no. 3- v. 35; 1931-33 (Reel #7)
v. 36-44, 46-50; 1934-42, 1944-49 (Reel #8).

ML-283/OOA is the call number at the National Archives;  at Provincial Archives of Alberta the accession number is 75.436. A little more of these 8 reels may be learned by looking at a maillist posting at

http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/B/BRITISHHOMECHILDREN+2004+6711359971+F

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Re:British Home Children - Child Migration Scheme - Canada
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 July 04 17:17 UTC (UK) »

Whitehorse:
From this site, which has already been suggested: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/index.html
"The following boys came to Canada during the summer and autumn of 1893:
Name of Boy: Edward Dainton
Name of Employer: Mr. William Gosenell
Address: Essex"

On the 1901 Canadian Census for Ontario, there is this entry:
"Edward Daton, Lodger , b22 Feb/1886, age 15, living with Mr. William Gosnell and family, Essex (South/Sud) National Archives Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6467."
Here's the link to the census:
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html

Hope it will be of some help.  meg



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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 07 August 04 18:51 UTC (UK) »

thank you so much for posting this link how i do wish this could of been availabel befor my mother died she tried every way to try to finde her brother that was sent to Canada at the age of 16  in 1929 my mother was then 10 years old she never saw her brother again and to my knowledge only went to see his mother once during the war in 1934 he was never heard of again
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 14 August 04 10:57 UTC (UK) »

 Grin
I can hardly wait to try some of the sites mentioned re births/marriages of the Home Children.

My grandparents were sent to Canada (Ontario) g.mother from a childrens home & g.father from the workhouse.
It has taken me a very long time to obtain information, but still more to find yet, so will hopefully? get a lead now!?
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 31 August 04 13:04 UTC (UK) »

 Sad

Sadly using the sites mentioned, I was unable to obtain any further information to add to that I already had, so alas, its back to the drawing board!

I`m still trying to find information re my gt aunt, Grace Gartland (nee Gagan or Geoghan) she married Augustus Gartland in 1894 in Ontario, my last infor on her was via the 1901 Ontario census, & then tht of twin sons Jerome & Jerrold born to her in 1903, then a brick wall Huh
I just do not know where to try next
Any ideas??
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Re: British Home Children - Child Migration Scheme - Canada
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 31 August 04 22:21 UTC (UK) »

"The other members of family are not listed - does this mean they were not sent to Canada?

Missing from same family:

Charles William Dainton born 1 Nov 1879
Edward Dainton born 1886
Ellen Dainton born 1888"


Found the following on http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/index.html

Our Old Friends' Directory February 1896
DAINTON Charles W, Harwich, Kent, March 1893

and on
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/north02.htm

Northern District Marriages 1902 has a C W and Ellen Dainton as witnesses to the marriage of a John Miller and Catherine Ritchberg

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 31 August 04 23:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
From the Canadian Archives page:

DAINTON , C

    Age:    13
    Sex:    M
    Year of arrival:    1893
    Microfilm reel:    C-4515
    Ship:    SS Labrador
    Port of departure:    Liverpool
    Departure Date:    16 Mar 1893
    Port of arrival:    Halifax
    Arrival Date:    25 Mar 1893
    Party:    Dr Bernardo's
    Comments:    Intermingled with H93BC, but via US Portland
    Note:    The child's surname was illegible or difficult to decipher.

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 24 December 04 03:43 UTC (UK) »

The gateway to the BHC site at the Canadian Archives in Ottawa can be reached at:

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/02/020110_e.html

That provides you with a number of links to source data that is stored on microfilm in the archives, much of which can be borrowed through your local library facilities. 

I don't know about the Bernardo children, but the records of those children who went through the Middlemore homes to Canada and Aus are held on a number of microfilm reels in the National Archives.  As I live near Ottawa, it was relatively easy for me to find the records for my wife's mother and her siblings who came to Canada via the Middlemore route. 

The reels contain all the data about the children and their circumstances in both the UK and in Canada / Aus, which were pertinent to their being taken into custody and were relevant to their foster homes in "the Colonies".   Smiley

I believe that you can access a full listing of the various Reels and their contents from the URL provided above.  Once you have found the Reel(s) on which info about your rellies is / are most likely to be found, you can ask your local library to borrow a copy for you to peruse, I think; as one of my wife's rellies in Cornwall went that route to obtain the data concerning her mother. 

I hope this helps.

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