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Re: How Long Before You Call It Quits??
« Reply #60 on: Monday 17 April 06 20:01 BST (UK) »

Hi Barbara

I think I must have looked at every instance of Ernest, b. circa 1887 in Middlesex/London - nothing at all that matches anything that I've picked up from this thread.  My eyes are now going pear-shaped Shocked

My last idea would be to check out the local workhouses/charity schools. If he was the son of Louisa, then he would have been of humble-ish origin. The story about running away from school, etc. might have been an attempt to cover it up.

I'll still keep thinking but  Sad

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« Reply #61 on: Monday 17 April 06 22:25 BST (UK) »

Here's a web hint, Barbara... go back into some of your replies this thread
and hit modify...then add the forename  & surname  of the person you are
talking about...within that reply...( some in reverse as I've done above...)
Search engines will then have it many times should there be anyone searching.
and you'll come up first for those names ( I hope) all the best, J.J.







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« Reply #62 on: Tuesday 18 April 06 07:11 BST (UK) »



Thanks for that J.J.   what a brilliant idea     Cheesy


Between the two of us Gadget, we're going to have very funny shaped eyes     Wink    I'm beginning to believe the story of Ernest is a complete fabrication, he didn't have a tutor, he didn't go to private school and he didn't have a 'well off' family . . . . Undecided   So now I'm totally stumped     Cry

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« Reply #63 on: Tuesday 18 April 06 08:50 BST (UK) »

Ummmm

Well I didn't like to say it quite so frankly Barbara but I was thinking that.
Still, I reckon you must have the correct mother - unless he dreamed the name up as well and I don't think he did Undecided
As I said, I've got one illegitimate line amongst my grandparents so I'll only know 7/8 ths of my family history. It doesn't really bother me. The rest are just as fascinating.
I still wonder though Wink

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« Reply #64 on: Tuesday 18 April 06 09:28 BST (UK) »



Hi Gadget, I'd had a sneaky feeling that was how it was going to be as he had always been so secretive about his family, but I was hoping against hope there was an element of truth somewhere to be found     Undecided   Maybe one day when I'm least expecting it something will just pop up - one of these days!! Cheesy

Thankyou so much for trying I really appreciate it.

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« Reply #65 on: Tuesday 18 April 06 14:58 BST (UK) »

This may sound like a stupid question but have you checked baptism records for him? Sometimes illegitimate children's fathers are listed, sometimes on a separate list.
All i can say is dont give up as i have just found my father after 27 years and it came as a suprise from a website. He will be somewhere even if he is listed under another name, such as his middle name as i have found this with ancestors of mine. I searched for an Eleanor and found an Ethel, turned out it was her middlename. I searched for an Emily and found a Lou, turned out to be her nickname but she was on the 1901 census as Lou!
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« Reply #66 on: Tuesday 18 April 06 16:21 BST (UK) »

Barbara, from your 'cousin in law'  Smiley

What does the dc say?Huh

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« Reply #67 on: Wednesday 19 April 06 01:05 BST (UK) »



Hi Badgirl . . . . I think I've tried every permutation of Ernest Abbott Onley I can think of and come up with nothing . . . ..    If anyone has any ideas I would certainly try them out . . ..  I'll accept anything at this stage    Cheesy

I haven't been able to find any baptism records for him at all.   Clerkenwell is the closest registry and they have nothing  on Bastardy orders etc.   Church records have proved elusive also .. .  Back to square one I think!!

Hi Cuz in Law

I haven't got his dc, but was told it had Ernest Abbott Onley on it, so did his coffin plaque.  I'm really going to have to splash out and get ALL the certs I can think of, even if they sound irrelevant and see what comes up.   The first one I think will be the Louisa Onley registered same 1/4 same volume next page to Ernest - I really do think it's tooooooooo much of a coincidence.
How did the building go, hope there's not too much to clean up after     Cheesy

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« Reply #68 on: Monday 05 May 08 11:43 BST (UK) »

Have been reading this thread because of your post on the thread "which of your ancestors have disappeared".

Not much help I am afraid but you said you hadn't found Louisa on the 1871; well Louisa and her family are transcribed as Olney and the reference is RG10/388 Folio 4, page 21.

Have you looked at Louisa's siblings and their families, to see if Ernest is with them in 1891?

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« Reply #69 on: Monday 05 May 08 12:47 BST (UK) »




Hi Kath...........I'd forgotten about this thread     Shocked Shocked Shocked

With the help of RC members, I managed to find Louisa up to her marriage in 1914 to Charles Barnett.....but still no Ernest.

He isn't with any of Louisa's siblings........or extended family, the ones I've found anyway.   There are three possibilities..........one, he's with his father and without knowing who his father is I've got Buckley's of finding him.   Two.........for all this time, I've followed the wrong Louisa or three.........he's with everyone else's missing persons down the pub!!!   We just have to find which pub    Wink Wink

Thank you so much for taking an interest in Ernest......he's still a mystery!!!

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« Reply #70 on: Monday 05 May 08 13:11 BST (UK) »

Hi Barbara,

Did wonder if that was your Louisa that married Charles Barnett Cheesy  She certainly got married late in life.  Did you get that marriage cert, just wondered what address Louisa was residing at.

I am glad you found Louisa, as I have been trying to find her and her brother Walter in 1901, they were hiding from me, but as you have her, I will stop now Tongue

Regards,
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« Reply #71 on: Monday 05 May 08 13:24 BST (UK) »




Hi Kath

116  Winston Road, Stoke Newington is the address on the M. Cert.  Witnesses brother Edward and his wife Harriet.

Don't worry, she IS missing in 1901.........     Grin Grin Grin   No sign of her anywhere!!

I think this is turning into an RC competition.......who can find Ernest first    Grin Grin Grin

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« Reply #72 on: Monday 05 May 08 14:02 BST (UK) »

I've been looking on and off for Ernest since before I'd reached 1000 postings  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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« Reply #73 on: Monday 05 May 08 14:09 BST (UK) »




There's still that bottle of something waiting for the winner       Grin Grin


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Re: How Long Before You Call It Quits??
« Reply #74 on: Monday 05 May 08 14:09 BST (UK) »

Hi everyone,
Just came across this thread, and thought I'd read through to try and help solve my own brickwalls.
Just wondered, Carol - how did you crack it in the end - you never said? Presume it must have been on somethng like GR or something similar. I'd be interested to know, Carol.
Good luck, Barbara - hope you solve it Smiley
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