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Re: How Long Before You Call It Quits??
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 16 April 06 12:27 BST (UK) »

I promise I will Barbara. Where was she in 1871. I've managed to get my grt grandmother working as a laundress in a stately home just a year before grandad's sister was born and the family said it was the same father.

I might have to do it tonight though - husband's calling me to lunch Wink

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« Reply #46 on: Sunday 16 April 06 12:35 BST (UK) »


Can't find her in '71 but the family were in Lower Brunswick Terrace in '61.   Louisa was born in 1865.

Congrats on finding out about your grt gandmother.   Wish I could find out about Louisa and what happened to her   Undecided

Lunch . . . . . .    it's nearly bed time here     Grin   Hope you got lots of Easter Eggs    Wink

Thanks for helping        Smiley

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Re: How Long Before You Call It Quits??
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 16 April 06 12:37 BST (UK) »

I'll really have a go Barbara - you helped me to my tiara - by the time you get up I might just have found something. I like having a good problem to solve Grin

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« Reply #48 on: Sunday 16 April 06 12:39 BST (UK) »




Congratulations . . . .


Well done Gadget . . . . . fluffy slippers coming up!!!


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« Reply #49 on: Sunday 16 April 06 12:44 BST (UK) »



You've got congratulations coming thick and fast . . . . . check the other boards!!


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Re: How Long Before You Call It Quits??
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 16 April 06 21:51 BST (UK) »

Hi Barbara

Just got in from a long 'afternoon' of partying - hunt the egg and all that. As I was driving, I was on lemonade Sad

I've now copied and pasted all the relevant bits from this thread into my notepad and will read, digest and see if I can come up with something.

Hope so Smiley

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« Reply #51 on: Monday 17 April 06 00:35 BST (UK) »

Barbara

I've so far found another Louisa E Onley Huh in Mitcham
A William Ernest Onley birth registered Sept q, 1886, Islington and his death March, 1887, Islington  Huh Huh Huh

How does the Bolton bit fit in?

Still thinking long and hard  Huh

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« Reply #52 on: Monday 17 April 06 04:15 BST (UK) »



Hi Gadget . . . . Have we come down from the clouds yet??   I'll order in the fluffy slippers for you, but the tiara is Su's domain      Cheesy

There's another Louisa E in Northampton as well, she married Samuel Kightley 1889, Sam died 1890 and she married John Richard Tooby, but there's no sign of an Ernest . . . ..  Undecided

Onley seemed to be quite common around the London area, so it's difficult locating the right one.

Bolton is where Ernest and Nellie (Kitchen) moved to in 1920 - Nellie's family were from Bolton.

Keep thinking - keep thinking this is no time to rest on your laurels now girl       Grin

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« Reply #53 on: Monday 17 April 06 09:12 BST (UK) »

Well, I checked up on Louisa's family. Ernest was not with her two elder brothers, who were both married and living in Islington at the time. I also checked 28 Edinburgh Cattages and there doesn't seem to be a likely candidate. I'm sure you've done all this already but another pair of eyes and all that. They weren't wealthy, so if your elderly Aunt is  right then he was either:

Adopted - no legal formalities in those days - so he could eventually find out who his biologicals were/was

Taken in by his father - who could have any name under the son Huh

Staying will other relatives - but who

They didn't declare him in the census

Off to have another look.......................

Gadget  - never knowingly rested on laurels Grin
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« Reply #54 on: Monday 17 April 06 09:24 BST (UK) »



Hi Gadget

It's really appreciated  . .  . the other pair of eyes I mean.   Mine are going gooooooogly trying to find Ernest.

It's a real puzzle as my Aunt is adamant they were well off and Ernest had a tutor until he went to a private school from where he ran away!! There was an adopted sister who died  in her early teens but no natural siblings.

But. . . . . .  I know you can do it Gadget, you have the tiara to live up to now . .. . bet you're chuffed about that, I would be        Cheesy

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« Reply #55 on: Monday 17 April 06 10:04 BST (UK) »

Adopted sister - mm - do you know if she was older or younger?
Private school - now that's probably where he'd be in 1901 - if he was in one  Huh
On his marriage cert to Nellie - what address did he give, what occupation, and was father blank???

Gadget - off looking - in waterproof hat and wellies Grin
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« Reply #56 on: Monday 17 April 06 10:22 BST (UK) »



Wellies don't really go with the tiara Gadget!!     Cheesy

I've been told the adopted sister was older than Ernest, but nobody can remember her name      Cry

Marriage cert has:

247 Great College Street

Music Hall Artiste

He put himself as his father but put carpenter as occupation.  This was amended in 1950 to - Quote:   Col 2 for Only read Only otherwise Onley.  Col 7 Omit Ernest Only.  Col 8 Omit Carpenter.   Corrected on the 4th
September 1950.

Witnesses were Thomas Charles Beaumont and Charles R Wren.

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Oh . . . .   I've just realised, he put his age down as 27 to Nellie's 23 . . . . .  That would make it an  1885 birth!!   But there's no other Ernest Abbott Onley's anywhere to be found . ..  probably not significant at all really    Undecided

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« Reply #58 on: Monday 17 April 06 10:39 BST (UK) »



Soooooooooooooooooooo...................

Good job it was Charles Wren and not Christopher or I'd begin to think they were stage names???
This marriage cert, is it the only source of the name Ernest Abbott Onley?
Think I know where Great College Street is - sister lives Bloomsbury - 1912 - music hall artiste.

Right! - theatre billboards!!  I think it might be worth another thread - you'd better ask while I chug on  Cheesy

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Sounds ever so ooo laaa grand doesn't it  . .  Music Hall Artiste      Cheesy   Nellie was a singer/dancer/actress - or so we've been told.  She did have a beautiful soprano voice, I think Ernest was a set manager.   I did put a post up before and got some replies - emailed everyone and everything to do with the theatre and archives and came up with zilch . . ... .  might just go back and resurrect it, see what comes up.

Marriage cert, birth cert both say Ernest Abbott Onley - plaque on coffin said Ernest Abbott Onley!!   Dad's bc says Ernest Onley.   Aunts bc says Ernest ONLY - no E.

My heads getting sore from banging against the wall     Undecided

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