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lynnboh
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1837online lookup query
« on: Wednesday 13 October 04 08:24 UTC (UK) »
Hello..

I am unable to access the 1837online site due to the limits of my browser so I am not familiar with the process they have for locating a GRO number there. Is it possible that someone here could lookup my name of interest to see if it is there or is there a charge for doing that?

I have not been able to locate a death certificate GRO number for my grandfather William Ivor Jones at FreeBmd,Ancestry.com, or LDS! I don't know where in England or Wales that he died. I only know it was sometime between 1927 and 1954.

Would appreciate any help or recommedations. Thank you kindly.

Lynn Cool
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Cambridgeshire, Whittlesea: WINTERTON,UPTON,CLARKE,WESTON,GREEN,SARGEANT/SARGENT
Ireland, Ulster, Antrim, Ballymena & Ballymoney: MCGARRY,ARMSTRONG,TAYLOR,WALLACE
Wales,Carmathenshire:JONES,REES, LEWIS, JOHN, WILLIAM, WILLIAMS, HOWELLS/HOWELL
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 October 04 11:41 UTC (UK) »
Hi -this would be a nightmare to search on 1837online as you can only look up by quarter by year and you have to pay for each time you view.

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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 October 04 12:06 UTC (UK) »
 hi I have also looked on the nbi with no luck i am afraid.
Ruth
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lynnboh
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 October 04 19:56 UTC (UK) »
Ruth..I am not familiar with what the NBI is. Is it a complete listing of death records? Can I assume if he is not listed on nbi that he would therefore not be on file either at the GRO? Thanks.

Lynn
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Lancashire: RICKABY,GASKILL Yorkshire:SIMPSON,RICKABY,WOMERSLEY/WALMSLEY
Cambridgeshire, Whittlesea: WINTERTON,UPTON,CLARKE,WESTON,GREEN,SARGEANT/SARGENT
Ireland, Ulster, Antrim, Ballymena & Ballymoney: MCGARRY,ARMSTRONG,TAYLOR,WALLACE
Wales,Carmathenshire:JONES,REES, LEWIS, JOHN, WILLIAM, WILLIAMS, HOWELLS/HOWELL
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 October 04 05:29 UTC (UK) »
NBI contains 13 million records but is by no means complete!!! I think you are going  to have to do a lot more digging first! however I have just received a notification from 137 online that you acn now do a full name search but need to investigate that.
Ruth
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 October 04 15:02 UTC (UK) »
The new search at 1837 is a little better than the old, but would still be a very expensive exercise for the number of years involved. My only suggestion would be to find an LDS centre with St Caths index on microfiche (if microfilm you will spend days winding film) and allocate lots of time - you will still have to search by quarter. You may also find multiple folk who fit your name.  Do you know for certain that he died in the UK. The thought of emigration could add yet another dimension.

Trish
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Tewin
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 October 04 14:13 UTC (UK) »
Well it might be time consuming, but not particularly expensive. Even if you have to search every quarter between 1927 and 1954 that's still only 108 units on 1837online. At a cost of around a tenner, that's cheaper for me than a trip to the FRC! And chances are you'll find him before you get to the last quarter of 1954. You could always try searching electoral registers first to narrow down the time frame if you have any idea where he was living.

Good luck,

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lynnboh
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 October 04 18:06 UTC (UK) »
Tewin

Is it possible to search electoral registers online for Liverpool or Cardiff? Thanks.

Lynn Cool

   
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Lancashire: RICKABY,GASKILL Yorkshire:SIMPSON,RICKABY,WOMERSLEY/WALMSLEY
Cambridgeshire, Whittlesea: WINTERTON,UPTON,CLARKE,WESTON,GREEN,SARGEANT/SARGENT
Ireland, Ulster, Antrim, Ballymena & Ballymoney: MCGARRY,ARMSTRONG,TAYLOR,WALLACE
Wales,Carmathenshire:JONES,REES, LEWIS, JOHN, WILLIAM, WILLIAMS, HOWELLS/HOWELL
lynnboh
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 November 04 06:43 UTC (UK) »
Ruth,

Could you please look to see if William I. Jones (Liverpool) is in the NBI somewhere between January and April of 1967? Thank you in advance.

Lynn Cool
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Lancashire: RICKABY,GASKILL Yorkshire:SIMPSON,RICKABY,WOMERSLEY/WALMSLEY
Cambridgeshire, Whittlesea: WINTERTON,UPTON,CLARKE,WESTON,GREEN,SARGEANT/SARGENT
Ireland, Ulster, Antrim, Ballymena & Ballymoney: MCGARRY,ARMSTRONG,TAYLOR,WALLACE
Wales,Carmathenshire:JONES,REES, LEWIS, JOHN, WILLIAM, WILLIAMS, HOWELLS/HOWELL
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 November 04 06:51 UTC (UK) »
 I think I did but will look again.
Ruth
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lynnboh
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 16 November 04 06:59 UTC (UK) »
Ruth,

Sorry, yes you did but I don't know if you looked just for another specific time that I had indicated before or were you able to search by name?

Lynn
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Lancashire: RICKABY,GASKILL Yorkshire:SIMPSON,RICKABY,WOMERSLEY/WALMSLEY
Cambridgeshire, Whittlesea: WINTERTON,UPTON,CLARKE,WESTON,GREEN,SARGEANT/SARGENT
Ireland, Ulster, Antrim, Ballymena & Ballymoney: MCGARRY,ARMSTRONG,TAYLOR,WALLACE
Wales,Carmathenshire:JONES,REES, LEWIS, JOHN, WILLIAM, WILLIAMS, HOWELLS/HOWELL
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 16 November 04 07:18 UTC (UK) »
I did look by name but there are no liverpool cemetries listed as far as i can see. But nothing with william i or ivor at all.
Ruth
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lynnboh
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 16 November 04 07:22 UTC (UK) »
Hi There,

Okay, thanks alot anyway for looking. Smiley

Lynn
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Lancashire: RICKABY,GASKILL Yorkshire:SIMPSON,RICKABY,WOMERSLEY/WALMSLEY
Cambridgeshire, Whittlesea: WINTERTON,UPTON,CLARKE,WESTON,GREEN,SARGEANT/SARGENT
Ireland, Ulster, Antrim, Ballymena & Ballymoney: MCGARRY,ARMSTRONG,TAYLOR,WALLACE
Wales,Carmathenshire:JONES,REES, LEWIS, JOHN, WILLIAM, WILLIAMS, HOWELLS/HOWELL
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 16 November 04 12:52 UTC (UK) »
Just a though't,

Your grandfather obviously fathered children if it is possible ask the ones who got married if he was down as deceased at time they got married that may just help to narrow down the search. 

Can I ask why are you certain he died between the years you specify?

Is it possible he died during the war years or woudl he have been too old for active duty then?

Wendy
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lynnboh
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Re: 1837online lookup query
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 17 November 04 01:07 UTC (UK) »
Hi Wendy,

Well you see that's the problem. He has been "lost" since the 1920's and I just don't know if he had other children. I managed to get a birth certificate for him and merchant seamans paper's but that's it.

A few folks here looked through 1837online for me for a possible death certificate for him but since his name was William Jones I can't be entirely sure we got the right one although we used the middle initial in the search and went through from 1927-1972. South Liverpool is indicated as a place of death for the DC and the age at death fits as well.

Only 2 persons fit the age criteria and since I know he worked out of Liverpool in the '20 I have been going on the assumption he must have continued living there. I could be ALL wrong, of course, with this direction of my search.Smiley

Regards,

Lynn
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Lancashire: RICKABY,GASKILL Yorkshire:SIMPSON,RICKABY,WOMERSLEY/WALMSLEY
Cambridgeshire, Whittlesea: WINTERTON,UPTON,CLARKE,WESTON,GREEN,SARGEANT/SARGENT
Ireland, Ulster, Antrim, Ballymena & Ballymoney: MCGARRY,ARMSTRONG,TAYLOR,WALLACE
Wales,Carmathenshire:JONES,REES, LEWIS, JOHN, WILLIAM, WILLIAMS, HOWELLS/HOWELL
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