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1851/1861 Census Dunbartonshire MacINTYRE
« on: Tuesday 18 April 06 11:43 BST (UK) »

I would be very grateful for a lookup in the 1851 or 1861 Census, please.  I'm searching for Patrick MacINTYRE, who was reputedly born at Helensburgh, Dunbartonshire in about 1846, son of Malcolm MacINTYRE and Marjory MacINTOSH.

I found a marriage for his parents on 26 Jun 1845 at Row, Dunbarton, but no sign of his birth on the IGI.  I also found the births of some possible other children of Malcolm MacINTYRE and Marjory MacINTOSH on the IGI, as follows:

Peter McINTYRE b. 5 Jun 1846 Blair Atholl, Perth
Catherine McINTYRE b. 2 Feb 1848 Blair Atholl
Rachel McINTYRE b. 3 Apr 1850 Blair Atholl
Jessie McINTYRE b. 10 Dec 1852 Blair Atholl
Marjory McINTYRE b. 10 Dec 1854 Blair Atholl

However, I have no real evidence that it's the same family, apart from the parents' names being the same.  Patrick MacINTYRE was probably in New Zealand by around 1870, so is not likely to appear on the 1871 Census.

It would be great to find him with his parents in a census, and then perhaps I can look for a birth record.  I'd appreciate any help.

Regards and best wishes,

Brett Payne
Tauranga, New Zealand
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Re: 1851/1861 Census Dunbartonshire MacINTYRE
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 May 06 03:00 BST (UK) »

Hello Brett,

ScotlandsPeople show 3 Patrick McIntyres of about the right age in 1851

Patrick aged 4 in Greenock, Renfrewshire
Patrick aged 6 in Gorbals, Glasgow
Patrick aged 6 in Leith South, Edinburgh

and 4 Patricks in 1861

Patrick (Mac) aged 16 in Abertarff or Fort Augustus, Inverness
Patrick (Mac) aged 15 in Glasgow Central District
Patrick (Mc)  aged 15 in Dundee Second District
Patrick (Mc) aged 16 in Glasgow Central District

hard to know which one to check the actual record ....

It would seem to me, but could be wrong that the family below from Blair Atholl is unlikely to be yours IF your Patrick was born in 1846. Assuming Malcolm and Marjory didn't have any children before their marriage (although possible) a marriage in 1845 resulting in a son, Peter born in 1846 means that Patrick and Peter would have been born at the same time ... unless could Patrick be Peter or vice versa??

regards,

Lindsay


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MORRISON - Dunbartonshire, Stirlingshire
STIRLING - Stirlingshire
LINDSAY - Perthshire
MELDRUM - Fife, Angus
GIBSON - Lanarkshire
HEWITT - Wigtownshire, Lanarkshire
MEIKLE - Dunbartonshire

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 May 06 03:26 BST (UK) »

Dear Lindsay,

Thank you very much for the lookups, for which I'm very grateful.  I have recently discovered from medical records here in New Zealand that Dr. Patrick MacIntyre was also called Peter!!!  This now makes sense, as I couldn't work out where a Patrick would fit into the Blair Atholl family either.  My guess is that he only called himself Patrick after childhood.

Regards and best wishes,  Brett
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 May 06 03:36 BST (UK) »

Brett, on the 1851, Peter McIntyre was born in Helensburgh!! So you might have got lucky!  Just typing it up now.

Lindsay
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MORRISON - Dunbartonshire, Stirlingshire
STIRLING - Stirlingshire
LINDSAY - Perthshire
MELDRUM - Fife, Angus
GIBSON - Lanarkshire
HEWITT - Wigtownshire, Lanarkshire
MEIKLE - Dunbartonshire

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 May 06 03:40 BST (UK) »

Malcolm McIntyre aged 28, Gamekeeper, born in Ardcattan? Argyleshire
Marjorie aged 28 born in Killin, Perthshire
Peter aged 4 born in Helensburgh, Dunbartonshire
Cathrine aged 3 born in Helensburgh, Dunbartonshire
Rachell aged 1 born in Killin, Perthshire

All spelling as is
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MORRISON - Dunbartonshire, Stirlingshire
STIRLING - Stirlingshire
LINDSAY - Perthshire
MELDRUM - Fife, Angus
GIBSON - Lanarkshire
HEWITT - Wigtownshire, Lanarkshire
MEIKLE - Dunbartonshire

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Re: 1851/1861 Census Dunbartonshire MacINTYRE
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 May 06 03:40 BST (UK) »

Wonderful, Lindsay - thank you!!!!!  I think it's probably best that I go and get the images for this from ScotlandsPeople.  Many, many thanks for confirming this.  I presume you are using up your own credits, for which I'm very grateful.  If you need any Derbytshire research done in exchange, just say the word!

Regards and best wishes, Brett
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 May 06 03:43 BST (UK) »

Derbyshire? Funny you should mention it, I am looking for a James Humphrey Morrison in Tibshelf in 1956 .. shouldn't imagine you will come across him but, who knows.

PM me you email address and I will send you the 1851 cert, no point to buy it twice.

regards,

Lindsay
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MORRISON - Dunbartonshire, Stirlingshire
STIRLING - Stirlingshire
LINDSAY - Perthshire
MELDRUM - Fife, Angus
GIBSON - Lanarkshire
HEWITT - Wigtownshire, Lanarkshire
MEIKLE - Dunbartonshire

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